Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
At this moment we are at "extreme vaffanculo city" ..
Erm .... MAYBE there's something in the USB drivers or such ... yes the DK2 is finally here YAY YAY ... ... yay .. yes it does not )(*$)(#@*$)(@$ work yet .. and we can't figure out why yet ...
It seems to appear/disappear from the USB ...
Erm .... MAYBE there's something in the USB drivers or such ... yes the DK2 is finally here YAY YAY ... ... yay .. yes it does not )(*$)(#@*$)(@$ work yet .. and we can't figure out why yet ...
It seems to appear/disappear from the USB ...
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
At the end of the day, that's just how shit is. I'm sure you'll sort it out one way or anothergilesgoat wrote:At this moment we are at "extreme vaffanculo city" ..
edit: But good goat; the number of times I've wished for a "serious conversation" with the designer of some thing I'm having to work with...
Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
How clear is things such as text on these DK2s ?
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
You installed the last runtime?gilesgoat wrote:At this moment we are at "extreme vaffanculo city" ..
Erm .... MAYBE there's something in the USB drivers or such ... yes the DK2 is finally here YAY YAY ... ... yay .. yes it does not )(*$)(#@*$)(@$ work yet .. and we can't figure out why yet ...
It seems to appear/disappear from the USB ...
Dunno, is there a firmware update?
I've received my shipping notification. Will arrive on tuesday.
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
After really some sort of TRUE "voodoo witchcraft" that Yak will explain you tomorrow we managed to have it working - the fault is in the setup procedure.
It's *THOUSAND MILES AHEAD* than DK1 ...
Ok "screendoor" .. lightly .. I mean it's really high res ..
What is VERY GOOD is "almost zero lag" and "virtually NO blur at all" .. coupled with a larger field of view.
Which actually is curious .. while the other I don't need my glasses to see I DO need the glasses for this one but it works well.
Also I noticed that - using the Tuscany demo - I have lot LESS nausea thing when moving around.
Overall, compared to DK1 is a SIGNIFICANTLY improved experience and stuff feels "lot more natural", more tests will follow.
If we want to be 'super picky' ok there's still a bit of marginal chromatic abberration and some "marginal strange thing" that I am quite sure - well I theorize - is due
the Timewarp algorithm that cannot be 100% perfect.
Don't know also if it's the higer refresh rate that improves the stuff.
But overall I say "it's fucking impressive" the level of improvement OR made in such a short time and it gives the feeling that "it can just keep getting better and better".
I mean if "in one iteration more" they can still improve a bit some stuff .. this is really stuff to 'totally blow your head off' ..
What they could do I guess is "even a bit more rez" and "even a bit larger FOV" .. but already as it is "there's more than enough to blow the head off".
Now to be honest I really don't know/am sure what "the people" .. "the market" can think of VR or what expects from VR but I say "technically" this is
fucking awesome, it really delivers it PROVES it CAN deliver ..
Yes you HAVE to make things "for VR" .. SO ? .. SO FUCK ME IS VR ! HERE IT IS ! DO IT !
It's like "before we had a bicycle" now we have an airplane and we complain because it flies and the bicycle trails are not very well suited for an airplane ..
Shut the **** and do things for an airplane, don't adapt stuff made for bicycle for it, get a grip and JFDI stop moaning and start working and investing on it !
This is the new thing, this is the new future (*), take it or leave it it's time to work on new things.
It's going to be very interesting times, don't know what others will think, don't know what's going to happen but "I know what I know, I saw what I saw, I know what
I am convinced of".
(*) or better to say "one of, not to be ignored".
"For quality innovative VR content, come to LS, we'll make you a special price"
... virtual goat simulation .. hummm .. now that's a tought ..

It's *THOUSAND MILES AHEAD* than DK1 ...
Ok "screendoor" .. lightly .. I mean it's really high res ..
What is VERY GOOD is "almost zero lag" and "virtually NO blur at all" .. coupled with a larger field of view.
Which actually is curious .. while the other I don't need my glasses to see I DO need the glasses for this one but it works well.
Also I noticed that - using the Tuscany demo - I have lot LESS nausea thing when moving around.
Overall, compared to DK1 is a SIGNIFICANTLY improved experience and stuff feels "lot more natural", more tests will follow.
If we want to be 'super picky' ok there's still a bit of marginal chromatic abberration and some "marginal strange thing" that I am quite sure - well I theorize - is due
the Timewarp algorithm that cannot be 100% perfect.
Don't know also if it's the higer refresh rate that improves the stuff.
But overall I say "it's fucking impressive" the level of improvement OR made in such a short time and it gives the feeling that "it can just keep getting better and better".
I mean if "in one iteration more" they can still improve a bit some stuff .. this is really stuff to 'totally blow your head off' ..
What they could do I guess is "even a bit more rez" and "even a bit larger FOV" .. but already as it is "there's more than enough to blow the head off".
Now to be honest I really don't know/am sure what "the people" .. "the market" can think of VR or what expects from VR but I say "technically" this is
fucking awesome, it really delivers it PROVES it CAN deliver ..
Yes you HAVE to make things "for VR" .. SO ? .. SO FUCK ME IS VR ! HERE IT IS ! DO IT !
It's like "before we had a bicycle" now we have an airplane and we complain because it flies and the bicycle trails are not very well suited for an airplane ..
Shut the **** and do things for an airplane, don't adapt stuff made for bicycle for it, get a grip and JFDI stop moaning and start working and investing on it !
This is the new thing, this is the new future (*), take it or leave it it's time to work on new things.
It's going to be very interesting times, don't know what others will think, don't know what's going to happen but "I know what I know, I saw what I saw, I know what
I am convinced of".
(*) or better to say "one of, not to be ignored".
"For quality innovative VR content, come to LS, we'll make you a special price"
... virtual goat simulation .. hummm .. now that's a tought ..
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
Turned out it was some kind of glitch in the installation. Someone suggested unplugging all, system restoring back before the install, rebooting, reinstalling, rebooting then replugging all, and that worked
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Tried a couple of unity demos that said they supported direct to rift mode but actually required setting extended display mode, setting the second screen as primary then running the direct to rift version worked (somewhat counterintuitively).
Tuscany worked as it should though (direct to rift in the appropriate mode).
Tomorrow I'll be trying to get it going with Elite Dangerous
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Tried a couple of unity demos that said they supported direct to rift mode but actually required setting extended display mode, setting the second screen as primary then running the direct to rift version worked (somewhat counterintuitively).
Tuscany worked as it should though (direct to rift in the appropriate mode).
Tomorrow I'll be trying to get it going with Elite Dangerous
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
So have to ask. Is it better than other VR stuff you might have come across???
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
I was fearing this question.Misfit wrote:So have to ask. Is it better than other VR stuff you might have come across???
I DO HAVE my own answer about this .. but "for various reasons" I am NOT sure if I can/am allowed to say it.
Also still having to spend "a bit more time" on "other things" the answer could still be uncorrectly biased or even wrong.
But certainly "it's a pretty good example of a pretty nice thing".
What I also think is that "things will improve even more in all different places".
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
Basically we have yet to see a final consumer version of any of the VR things we're playing with, so quite apart from our NDA obligations it would not be correct anyway for us to say that thing X is better than thing Y given that all is still subject to change.
What we can say is that from what we've seen so far the future is looking very promising for VR
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What we can say is that from what we've seen so far the future is looking very promising for VR
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
So in a nutshell, when my arrives on Monday ... plug in nothing, install everything, re-boot & then hook up.
Also, I'm a nubee to VR as I decided to skip DK1. So is there anything I can pre-install whilst waiting for Monday?
Also, I'm a nubee to VR as I decided to skip DK1. So is there anything I can pre-install whilst waiting for Monday?
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
So has anyone taken delivery of a DK2 unit yet then? be interesting to see/hear comparisons between software running on v1/v2 (or does the software need to be specifically patched to take advantage of v2?)
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
You did just read Giles' post above right?Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:So has anyone taken delivery of a DK2 unit yet then? be interesting to see/hear comparisons between software running on v1/v2 (or does the software need to be specifically patched to take advantage of v2?)
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
Yes. Your point being?Misfit wrote:You did just read Giles' post above right?Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:So has anyone taken delivery of a DK2 unit yet then? be interesting to see/hear comparisons between software running on v1/v2 (or does the software need to be specifically patched to take advantage of v2?)
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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
My point being I can't read very well! Your question was a bit more specific when I re-read it. Sorry.Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:Yes. Your point being?Misfit wrote:You did just read Giles' post above right?Sir_LANs-a-lot wrote:So has anyone taken delivery of a DK2 unit yet then? be interesting to see/hear comparisons between software running on v1/v2 (or does the software need to be specifically patched to take advantage of v2?)
Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]
Patiently waiting for UPS to deliver the DK2 today. Grrrr.
Downloading some demos to try out whilst I wait.
Any suggestions as to what I should be trying out first for the WoW factor?
Downloading some demos to try out whilst I wait.
Any suggestions as to what I should be trying out first for the WoW factor?
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