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GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:23 pm 0

I dunno, I just find the whole Arnie story just plain weird. Now that he's running for Senator, (people have said it's his longer-term ambition to be President), I just wonder what is going on. You know, *really* going on. What compels a man like him, with all his wealth and fame, to go into politics. Is it purely and simply the power. A man like him with REAL power just scares me a teensy bit. California is the 7th largest economy in the world, close enough to the UK and France.

I loved the intro to Commando. The bit where he's out in the wildreness with his young daughter. Lovingly teaching her how to fish in fresh water streams, gain the trust of young fallow deer, kill men with her hands. Art.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:29 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:people have said it's his longer-term ambition to be President

That can never happen as the US constitition states that only people who were born in the US can become president.

Sadly they didn't put a requirement for any candidate to pass an intelligence test in the constitition, because then the US wou;dn't be led by the Chimp-in-Chief Duh-bya.

Yak · Post by **Yak** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:30 pm 0

young fallow deer, fwoarrr....

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PVB · Post by **PVB** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:30 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:
GeeZa wrote:people have said it's his longer-term ambition to be President
That can never happen as the US constitition states that only people who were born in the US can become president.

Sadly they didn't put a requirement for any candidate to pass an intelligence test in the constitition, because then the US wou;dn't be led by the Chimp-in-Chief Duh-bya.

As there have been amendments to The Constitution, I guess one day they may allow a non-US born to get to the top.

DutchLlama · Post by **DutchLlama** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:37 pm 0

PVB wrote:
DutchLlama wrote:
GeeZa wrote:people have said it's his longer-term ambition to be President
That can never happen as the US constitition states that only people who were born in the US can become president.

Sadly they didn't put a requirement for any candidate to pass an intelligence test in the constitition, because then the US wou;dn't be led by the Chimp-in-Chief Duh-bya.
As there have been amendments to The Constitution, I guess one day they may allow a non-US born to get to the top.

I thought amendments can only add new rules to the constitution, not change rules which are in the main text of the constitution.

The US constitution is a bit strange as it hasn't been changed since it was passed, only amended.

Here is the section of the constitution that would dash Arnie's presidential hopes:

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:52 pm 0

Anyone seen Demolition Man? Hark my words... fiction may come true

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:52 pm 0

I'd like to think the American public would not vote for this guy anyway. However, his possible rise up the political ladder is still perhaps worrying. Remember it's people like Rumsfeld that often shape and make policy. The whole California political scene just seems to me like a frightening joke. Imagine an elite army of "Governators" running tings.

dtj · Post by **dtj** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:38 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:What compels a man like him, with all his wealth and fame, to go into politics.

You do know who he's married to, don't you?

dtj · Post by **dtj** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 7:41 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Well, keep in mind, the guy is almost 60. He's been a citizen since the age of 20 or so. In terms of "natural born citizenship"... well, we'll see.

Wibble · Post by **Wibble** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:52 pm 0

GeeZa wrote:I'd like to think the American public would not vote for this guy anyway. However, his possible rise up the political ladder is still perhaps worrying. Remember it's people like Rumsfeld that often shape and make policy. The whole California political scene just seems to me like a frightening joke. Imagine an elite army of "Governators" running tings.

As dtj pointed out, the guy is old, and he believes it's time for a change. He's not a significantly good actor, and he's been subject to typecasting as action hero more than anything else. His acting career is somewhat over.

I serioiusly think he wouldn't do a worse job than a large number of previous governors - remember those rolling blackouts?. He may have a funny accent, but that doesn't necessarily make him stupid or unfit for the job. People can learn, even if they're old and have right-wing ideals.

-W

maraxis · Post by **maraxis** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:17 pm 0

DutchLlama wrote:
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Easy, make Austria a State of America - Problem solved.

PFVA · Post by **PFVA** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:52 pm 0

Arnold has been in politics for a long time. He was one of the biggest supporters of Reagan when he was governor of California and when he was President. It was not a surprise that he decided to run this time.

He has been leading the polls and he may in fact become the next Governor of the State. The Democrats are worried enough that Clinton is here for the second time showing his support to Gray Davis. If they loose this state it's a major blow for them.
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Ely · Post by **Ely** » Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:26 pm 0

Mayhem wrote:Anyone seen Demolition Man? Hark my words... fiction may come true

As long as all the women look like Sandra Bullock, who cares

Damn she's sexy in that !!

GeeZa · Post by **GeeZa** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 1:34 am 0

OK, so let's just say his career is sunsetting. Let's also say that his support of Republican politics and his obvious marital connections have a major bearing. I'm still somewhat confused as to why, as an individual, he wants to take up politics as a career. I can only think, as someone once said, that politics is the arena for people who have basically no talent or skill in the real world. It's a bit like a footballer owning a pub.

I mean, he could retire quite happily couldn't he? Given that Wes Clark may well be the next President, isn't this an odd decision? God I'm confused, and it's late.

Mike_Vox · Post by **Mike_Vox** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:32 am 0

Arnold definately has enough money to retire. It's not like he has to have a job in the first place, let alone be a politician. I've thought about this also and I can only assume he wants to challenge himself with something new. If you want to look at it from a cynical point of view, it's about the power, not the money. It's not like Bill Gates has to work, either, yet he's kept working long after he could afford to take a first rate vacation for the rest of his life.

All though Arnold is running as a republican, I find his political views closer to libertarian than anything else. He's conservative on economic issues and liberal on social issues.

Mike_Vox

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