iWatch / Wearable tech

[Misfit]

Iwatch battery is supposed to be terrible apparently.

How does anyone know?

Reading bad things about the Moto 360 battery needing to be charged to make a whole day. Which kinda defeats the purpose.

[Deckard]

So how many new smart watches have samsung knocked out in the last year ? Part of they're we ain't got a clue lets throw out some shit and see what sells policy. Come on Apple let's see it done properly:) do what you do best and refine / perfect an idea already out there.

[defsdoor]

Isn't everyone tired of the entire Apple circus now ? I won't buy another Apple product because I know they will supersede it within 6 - 12 months with some trivial addition that's part of a 5 year screw-the-customer-for-upgrades campaign.

Release all the tech/features up front with a big bang - revolutionise not evolutionise!

[Whiteball]

The latest Samsung Gear watch has decent specs and looks like it might actually be one to keep an eye on.

[Deckard]

Isn't everyone tired of the entire Apple circus now ? I won't buy another Apple product because I know they will supersede it within 6 - 12 months with some trivial addition that's part of a 5 year screw-the-customer-for-upgrades campaign.

Release all the tech/features up front with a big bang - revolutionise not evolutionise!

Which product is that then ? I note samsung had their v2 gear out almost exactly 6 months after their first launch ......

[pogo]

Isn't everyone tired of the entire Apple circus now ? I won't buy another Apple product because I know they will supersede it within 6 - 12 months with some trivial addition that's part of a 5 year screw-the-customer-for-upgrades campaign.

What? Most other companies are far far worse. Most are guilty of:
* Releasing multiple products throughout the year, often only for months before they're obsoleted
* Releasing products with no upgrade path; the OS it ships with is the one you're stuck with. Not even security patches. Even if there is an upgrade it may take many months.
* Releasing already obsolete products. Companies were releasing Android 2.x phones long after 4.x was released

Exceptions? Microsoft with Surface and Windows Phone 8, though past customers (anyone with a Windows 7 phone for example) have been stuck with obsolete un-upgradable products.

Apple in contrast release phones once a year, and sell only two or three at once. All come with the latest OS and get at least a couple of years of OS upgrades, for free and with no delay. iPads come out about as often though the schedule's less predictable. Their computers and the Apple TV go longer between upgrades, sometimes years.

[Misfit]

Isn't everyone tired of the entire Apple circus now ? I won't buy another Apple product because I know they will supersede it within 6 - 12 months with some trivial addition that's part of a 5 year screw-the-customer-for-upgrades campaign.

By all account don't buy anything Apple if you don't want to, but seriously?

Go and have a look how many different Samsung android phones and tablets there are and see how many of them got much support like updates to newer operating systems. My daughters 4.5 year old iPhone 4 still runs the latest OS...

[Misfit]

Okay, just googled and the Samsung Galaxy range alone is quite boggling and way more than I thought (and they started 2 years after Apple released the iPhone). There are still 7 models that are still awaiting a release date....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy

[Deckard]

According to the tech sites lots of so called premium android phones either never get an OS upgrade or very very late in the day

[RiK]

According to the tech sites lots of so called premium android phones either never get an OS upgrade or very very late in the day

Yep, 'Android' may have massive market share now, but it's horribly fragmented. Most devices are massively out of date, many are horribly underpowered and the average user doesn't have a clue how to upgrade or tweak anything themselves so the 'open' nature of the OS is irrelevant to them.

I've known loads of mates who thought they were joining the cool kids by jumping ship to a big screened android phone only to jump back to an iOS device come upgrade time..

[defsdoor]

So you don't think it was a cynical, manipulative move by Apple to release new iPads 6 months after the last big release that were double the performance (and nothing else) ?

I can't see it as anything but. I was stupid enough to buy 3rd gen just a couple of months before the 4th gen A6X.

We have 4 tablets in our house now - 1st gen ipad, 3rd gen ipad, Galaxy Note and a Galaxy Tab S.

Just the fact that I can browse my home network, look at my media server and play any file on it, with Dolby soundtrack or not guarantees I won't be buying into Apple's jail again. How many non-technical people on Apple devices can do that ? Because it required nothing technical to do it on these android devices.

I also find the fact that there are 3 buttons on the Android devices make them so much easier to use - especially one handed. Having to go up to the top left (typically) to close/go back is so cumbersome whereas Android has a back/revert button.

[RiK]

Having to go up to the top left (typically) to close/go back is so cumbersome whereas Android has a back/revert button.

Or you could just use the swipe right to left gesture to do it..

[defsdoor]

Yeah - that's everso easy to do one handed.

[merman]

Isn't everyone tired of the entire Apple circus now ? I won't buy another Apple product because I know they will supersede it within 6 - 12 months with some trivial addition that's part of a 5 year screw-the-customer-for-upgrades campaign.

What? Most other companies are far far worse. Most are guilty of:
* Releasing multiple products throughout the year, often only for months before they're obsoleted
* Releasing products with no upgrade path; the OS it ships with is the one you're stuck with. Not even security patches. Even if there is an upgrade it may take many months.
* Releasing already obsolete products. Companies were releasing Android 2.x phones long after 4.x was released

Exceptions? Microsoft with Surface and Windows Phone 8, though past customers (anyone with a Windows 7 phone for example) have been stuck with obsolete un-upgradable products.

Apple in contrast release phones once a year, and sell only two or three at once. All come with the latest OS and get at least a couple of years of OS upgrades, for free and with no delay. iPads come out about as often though the schedule's less predictable. Their computers and the Apple TV go longer between upgrades, sometimes years.

We're on the third generation and fifth form of Surface in three years.

[Misfit]

So you don't think it was a cynical, manipulative move by Apple to release new iPads 6 months after the last big release that were double the performance (and nothing else) ?

Nearly every tech company in the World releases new models all the time. Let's look at good old Samsung again, between Nov 2010 and July 2014 there have been 17 distinct models of the Galaxy Tab on top of that there are 3 Galaxy Note tablets and 2 more just announced. Making 22 models in 4 years which average one every 2 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_Tab_series

Apple do many things wrong to wring every penny out of the consumer but they are no better/worse than any other large corporation. Samsung and Google certainly aren't in it for us.