Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

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wow I just clicked submit once and it's double posted..
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Can you understand understanding without experiencing it?
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Understanding experience without experiencing understanding is, still, poorly understood.
Well, maybe not.
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I understand that I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure I've experienced it.
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I suppose VR will cause people to become even more confused about what they've really experienced and what they haven't.

Even if they know they've only done it in VR, they may still insist that that's "experience".
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Well, they would since they experienced the experience. Can you prove reality is real and all you've experienced isn't an illusion?
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I'd humbly suggest that knowledge will give you insight into how something works, but only experience can tell you how something feels.
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But is experience really genuine understanding, anyway?

After all, it's only anecdotal evidence...
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Dvorak wrote: :D

Where did all my smart bombs go?
This version is a bit harder than the XMas build, isn't it?
There are a few changes from the Xmas build, mostly little bug fixes and cosmetic adjustments; I moved the viewpoint even closer to the web, which I think works nicely to make some of the webs feel bigger (most notably that one where the yellow orbs appear, and the Ear) and adds a bit to the immersion, and I opened out the arrival times of some of the enemies on some of the busier levels to reduce overload a bit. The closer viewpoint may actually make it slightly harder as you sometimes have to look around to see all of the larger surfaces, but I think having to look round a bit somehow makes it feel more like you're "there" :).

Smartbombs should be the same though, one per level - if you had more than that on the old version must've been a bug!
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Little stoned kiwi wrote:Well, they would since they experienced the experience. Can you prove reality is real and all you've experienced isn't an illusion?
So somebody could claim to have experienced skydiving having done it in VR and no skydiver could ever tell them otherwise because Descartes said so?
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No. A skydiver hasn't really skydived due to a mis-perception of the nature of reality, because Buddha said so.
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Does GearVR run at 75hz like Crescent Bay? Is Crystal Coves 90hz rate some kind of arbitrary limit? What's the limiting factor, the display controller? Who makes the fastest? Theoretically speaking OLED displays can switch much faster than that.
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No point in picking something that's impractical. >HD resolutions at 90Hz is a challenge at AAA visual quality, doubly so when you have to hit 90Hz every single time without fail, so you need more headroom. HDMI is a likely limiter too. 4K/60Hz is only supported on a single cable recently.
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I suppose I am just curious. Most panels in tablets or phones are probably not connected using HDMI, although that is a good point regarding most external displays (which happens to include the Rift..). I haven't been able to find much information about actual AMOLED controller chips although most are probably produced to fit into existing tech ecosystems as opposed to outright theoretical capabilities of OLED technology.

Microsoft Hololens is debuting today;
http://gizmodo.com/microsofts-wants-to- ... 1680924508

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Looks ridiculously, impossibly good. Can’t believe this will be possible ever, without some amount of jitter/lag or other artefacts.

And Minecraft ! Suddenly the purchase makes a little more sense, as the killer gaming app for it.
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