The Dr Who thread

[Istar]

Despite living practically next door to this for 15 years, it was only yesterday that I finally got around to having the missus snap me with it.

[F-ZeroOne]

I think its worth pointing out that Neil Gaiman almost certainly didn't translate "Princess Mononoke"; what he did do was adapt, or to use the videogame term, "localise" the story.

http://www.hollywoodgothique.com/gaiman.html

[Governmentyard]

While I agree absolutely "good intentions results in bad results" should be done (and not just in Who).

Not really seeing a last-minute-bad-guy in Season 6 or 7. The River/Melody/Lets-make-a-doctor-killler stuff was pretty evenly spread all over them. Clara was a mystery till Name but not exactly a background manipulation thing.

Well, in Clara's case the big bad was Trenzalore. Because that's where the Doctor dies. Except of course love and deus ex machina save the day and he gets more regenreations. So that was scary, then. As far as the preceding clusterfuck of plotlines goes, all of it was down to the Master, as s/he invoked Clara.

Could be explained better, but it seems fairly rational wanting to either lock away or kill the Doctor given how much of a big show off he became in season5. I thought that was the whole point of his arc really.

Now, arguably they are still all ignoring the fact given how often he saves not just earth but the universe. But villains being arrogant is a very hard to shift cliche.

Well, with our best men on the job, I'm sure it's achievable.

[Governmentyard]

I think its worth pointing out that Neil Gaiman almost certainly didn't translate "Princess Mononoke"; what he did do was adapt, or to use the videogame term, "localise" the story.

http://www.hollywoodgothique.com/gaiman.html

Indeed, which takes a greater degree of intuition for the characterisation and plotting than a simple translation.

[F-ZeroOne]

I think I can hear various anime translators sharpening their knives in the distance at the idea of a "simple" translation... I think I see what you mean, that theres obviously clearly a difference between a direct, literal translation (the "Google Translate" approach) and one that takes account of nuance and if necessary, reworks the line so that it makes sense to the intended, not original audience (for example Harry Potter who has a friend that likes West Ham football club; to a British person merely the words "West Ham" convey some comedic value, I often wonder how they handle that joke in, say, the Japanese translation - Harrys friend likes the Nippon Ham Fighters, maybe?).

[pogo]

I linked to it earlier but an embed is far more accessible. She’s back:

[Darkflame]

I got two different copy's of Princess Mononoke on my shelf and was completely unaware Gaiman was involved O_o

[pogo]

I got two different copy's of Princess Mononoke on my shelf and was completely unaware Gaiman was involved O_o

It may not be obvious as the nature of the work means his personality doesn’t shine through as in original works he originated. But it really shows through in the quality of the writing, which rises well above the standard of a typical translation at numerous points.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/quotes

(and it’s copies not copy’s !)

[Darkflame]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119698/quotes

Reading over those quotes makes me want to watch it yet again
Truly great work.
I guess because its one master interpreted by another.

[Darkflame]

Some might like this.

https://twitter.com/TorontoComiCon/stat ... 9397288960

[F-ZeroOne]

[Governmentyard]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/32131499

How wonderful! I don't even care if she's not Romana.

[F-ZeroOne]

"Sonic it with the pointy end!".

The new Adric?

[Little stoned kiwi]

Jenna Coleman 'planned to quit' last year

The actress was widely rumoured to be leaving her role as Clara Oswald after a cliffhanger in the series eight finale, Death In Heaven.
Moffat confirmed to Doctor Who magazine she had asked to be written out.
"That was her last episode," he said. "Then she asked me if she could be in [the] Christmas [episode]. So I said, 'OK, I'll write you out in Christmas.'"
"She came to the read through and did the 'write out' version - and again changed her mind."

Well, that explains it. I was excited by the clean break and 'reboot' nature of Death In Heaven. Then the Christmas episode undid all of that and had a crap ending to boot.
Death In Heaven wasn't a bold new direction after all. Moffit was forced to. Then undid it all with the snap of his fingers and a spot of lazy, ad-hoc writing.

[Governmentyard]

For christ's sake, Jenna, don't be such a fucking faff-arse.