Politics Thread!

[Dio]

Reckon Cameron's feeling he dropped a bollock this morning. That's a question he should have ducked.

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Reckon Cameron's feeling he dropped a bollock this morning. That's a question he should have ducked.

Definitely should have fobbed them off but I've got the impression that he would rather be doing something else than being Prime Minister for a while now.

[Dio]

The amount of anger he shows at the ballot box is odd. I thought it was a personal hatred for Milliband, but if he's genuinely miserable about it that would explain it.

But then the odd thing is to commit to the full second term. If he was preparing to grab the ejector handle the ideal time to do that from a Tory point of view is 2016-17 (assuming he is reelected); settle the new government in, handle any tricky coalition stuff, get the measure of Milliband's replacement and then let someone else have a go. I mean, the biggest question standing now is when do they change leader - elect at conference in 2019, and then have the new leader take over from the start of the election campaign? Unprecedented.

If I was him though I would certainly be pissed off about the lukewarmness of the rest of the party. By PM standards his popularity is astonishing, especially considering the shower he's standing in front of.

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Whatever you think of him (he's a cunt!) my feeling is he shows a lot better than Osborne and I think everyone knows that.

And if he wanted to fuck off it'd have to have been done about 6 months ago, right in the middle of the Gove / May wars.

But yeah, definitely a weak point in my argument

[Dio]

Whatever you think of him (he's a cunt!) my feeling is he shows a lot better than Osborne and I think everyone knows that.

Osbourne would be a crazy choice since Cameron at least manages to come off as a (albeit very posh) human being rather than an upper-class twit.

It's surely going to be May or Boris next.

[merman]

So all those slogans about voting Miliband should be turned around.

VOTE CAMERON, GET LUMBERED WITH GIDEON OSBORNE

VOTE CAMERON, GO TO RACK & RUIN UNDER MAY

VOTE CAMERON, GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY BEFORE BORIS TAKES OVER


And if Cameron really doesn't want a third term, let's not bother to give him a second one...

[pogo]

I think I’d like to live in a country with Boris in charge (not sure about the other two). But you don’t get them if you elect Cameron, he plans to stay for another term. Then in 2020 one of those, or someone else, will be Tory leader and so candidate for PM, and you can vote for them or not as you see fit.

It could easily be someone else who isn’t even on the radar now. Remember Miliband only became an MP in 2005, only joined the cabinet in 2007, and only became secretary of state in 2008. Long experience as an MP and in government clearly isn’t a prerequisite for becoming party leader (though given Miliband’s performance since it probably should be).

[Dio]

I think I’d like to live in a country with Boris in charge (not sure about the other two).

I think he certainly could govern in a genuinely one-nation way, and be very good at it. He has done some of that quite well in London.

But I don't know if he will and with his record I don't trust him to do that. Frankly I don't trust him at all. He could be anywhere on any spectrum; Blair, Thatcher, Wilson, Berlusconi...

[Cloudane]

In comes my latest BBC News push notification...

It is "sadly likely" there were some British Nationals amongst the dead in the French Alps plane crash

Does anyone else find when they do this it just comes across like it wasn't meant to be sad that 150 people died until some of them were from our country?

(Not exactly on topic, but not worth its own thread, and I guess kind of political in terms of how we view ourselves / other countries so seemed most fitting here)

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Video of a man not enjoying himself much

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... pensioners

Which is actually quite enjoyable

[Dio]

Plenty more videos of Mr. Hague not enjoying his last day at the dispatch box today either. He must have got quite sick of people saying what a wonderful parliamentarian he'd been until today then calling him an eejit.

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Well deserved, what a stupid and odd act of spite.

[Governmentyard]

Bercow seemed a little choked up at the vote. Props to Charles Walker as well. Even as he rose to finish the valedictory debate, Hague was heckled a little and this was no more than he desrved. An ignominious end to a parliamentary career, if I ever saw one.

[Governmentyard]

Oh, Channel 4... could you have found two bigger Tories to helm that debacle? I'm not saying Paxman gave Cameron an easy ride but he was just a fucking cunt to Miliband, who gave as good as he got, mannerisms notwithstanding (and nor should they matter). As for Burley, she simpered and grinned through Cameron's town hall (ugh) questions and did everything but strip down to her blue knickers when Miliband was up. "Oooh, that man pulled a face while you were talking, let's let hi talk instead". Sorry dear, I'm not voting for that guy in the audience, let me hear what the only likely alternative to the incumbent actually has to say. If he wants to obfuscate or dance around an answer, I'll know for myself, ta.

On reflection, maybe Cameron has a point about these TV things. I should have realised when it was branded "The battle for Number 10" that it was going to be a knuckle-dragger of an evening.

[Portland]

Let me explain...