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not sure labour and conservative agree what exactly the centre is, hence they can't agree on anything at all I suspect. So flying bacon sandwiches all round, you are right I think
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no, surely this has to get today's award as best piece of UKIP fuckwittery for the day:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html
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This guy's excited!

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gravy wrote:Anyway, don't forget to vote tomorrow!

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For an even greater contrast, remember that at the same age Ed Miliband was protesting against unfair rent rises in Camden.

I think the biggest disappointment for me will be another low turnout.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comm ... servative/

Fucking hell these lot need to go. Though I recall the previous Labour government being pretty bad for this kind of shit too, which is probably why Green is the suggested vote in the article, but yeah this is just horrendous.

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Bit of light relief outside the polling station today - couple of people handing out leaflets about how the gubbermunt is controlling our minds with Chemtrails. You might get that sort of thing a lot in the Big City, but it was a bit of a surprise to see it in a semi-rural town...
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They are just pointing out something I pointed out when Labour announced their policies. The main result of them will be fewer properties to rent as landlords withdraw from the market. When prices are high because of limited supply you don’t fix the problem by price controls. You generally achieve even worse outcomes as lower prices push up demand. Without improved supply you end up with even worse shortages, and so rents rising even faster between contracts.

This will be multiplied as Labour plan to pass on other fees to landlords, as well as unspecified fines. For many amateur landlords the worst part of it is not whether they can raise rents by the rate of inflation or in line with the market. It’s the extra hassle all this implies that will drive many out of the market.

If Labour really cared about making rented housing affordable they should build more of it. I.e. of houses in general; do something serious about the housing shortage and it will bring down prices and rents. Not gimmicks that will only make things worse.
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They are just pointing out something I pointed out when Labour announced their policies.
Hahaha, the idea that you think it raises their actions out of the pit utter cuntiness because you think similarly is truly amazing.

As for these fuckers, they aren't even the landlords. They're right to be concerned as they add minimal value and will be one of the first costs the actual landlords would look to cut if they can't ramp up rents.
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Yes, they’re not landlords. So rather than “we will do this” if Labour are elected, which would be pretty underhand, they are pointing out the likely effect on landlords. You can question their timing and motives for doing it, but they could as easily be accused of hiding things, if they knew e.g. from their relations with landlords the likely effects of Labour’s policies but did not inform tenants.
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pogo wrote:Yes, they’re not landlords. So rather than “we will do this” if Labour are elected, which would be pretty underhand, they are pointing out the likely effect on landlords. You can question their timing and motives for doing it, but they could as easily be accused of hiding things, if they knew e.g. from their relations with landlords the likely effects of Labour’s policies but did not inform tenants.
It's about their share price and that's all its about. They've tried to needlessly scare people about losing their homes to protect their shareholders.

Otherwise they'd also point out that rent controls haven't lead the kind of mass evictions Belvoir are trying to shit their customers up with.

If you don't think this is appalling behaviour there's something fundamentally wrong with you.
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So a Tory + Lib Dem coalition again? BBC Exit poll predicts the Tories will get 316 seats, Labour 239. If so a lot of pollsters will have a lot of explaining to do. 1992 all over again.
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Good indication for the Tories, last exit poll was spot on.

I hope it is like 1992, that's the last time the exit polls were wildly wrong :D
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pogo wrote:So a Tory + Lib Dem coalition again? BBC Exit poll predicts the Tories will get 316 seats, Labour 239. If so a lot of pollsters will have a lot of explaining to do. 1992 all over again.
Said a good amount about this in Twitter feed, my call was incremental minority for Tory/Lib Dem. There's an inherent shame in telling people you're going to vote Tory, they always poll lower than they achieve...

Will be interesting to see it pan out, but have to drive to Wales tomorrow.
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