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Our Justice Minister who's going to repeal the Human Rights Act and author a new Bill Of Rights for the us!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 39681.html
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An excellent article on how the polling might have become so skewed:
https://opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/sh ... ere-near-b
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BBC Fucked then, our new culture secretay is John Whittingdale:
Whittingdale, a former political secretary to Margaret Thatcher, and chairman of the Commons culture select committee since 2005, has described the £145.50 licence fee as “worse than poll tax” and unsustainable in the long term
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Capital punishment could get on the agenda during this term.

It was put forward on the alternative Queen's speech two years ago, along with other rational policy ideas like naming August bank holiday "Thatcher Day".

Patel will be getting some practice in, at her new role as DWP execution minister.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 41144.html

FUCK SAKE

"The BBC licence fee, there is no means-tested element whatsoever; it doesn't matter how poor you are, you pay £145.50 and go to prison if you don't pay it."

You can't go to prison for not paying the license fee - ONLY if you refuse to pay court imposed fines.
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Well, there's a point there. The TV licence is a very crappy regressive tax.
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His lie blows that argument.

If you consider it crappy and regressive - don't pay for one.

You won't go to prison. :roll:
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Yeah capital punishment looks like an inevitable path with the removal of human rights.

It'd be quite easy for them to get support for this (and some other things like torture) by playing the "what do you think terrorists, paedophiles and animal abusers deserve?" card.
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Cloudane wrote:Yeah capital punishment looks like an inevitable path with the removal of human rights.

It'd be quite easy for them to get support for this (and some other things like torture) by playing the "what do you think terrorists, paedophiles and animal abusers deserve?" card.
I can only tolerate a certain amount of stupid before giving in to the urge to post. You broke the meter to the point that I'm wondering if it's parody.

Anyway, I'll offer you 10/1, to a maximum return of £1,000 if capital punishment is merely floated by Cameron.
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I can see the License Fee finally becoming history. It makes no sense, if it ever did, for it to still be a criminal offence not to pay (hence the fines and jail time). But as a civil offence, like other charges and fees, the BBC would have a far harder time collecting, which might mean the slow death of it accelerated. So just kill it off: pay for the important bits of the BBC and let the bits that are already run like commercial corporations pay for themselves.

Capital punishment won’t happen. There may be some excitable back benchers who think now’s the time but all the government will do is make it a free vote and the result won’t even be close, like the last times it was voted on. Absent a 400 seat Tory majority it won’t happen.
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They won’t let him go !
"As promised Nigel Farage tendered his official resignation as leader of UKIP to the NEC. This offer was unanimously rejected by the NEC members who produced overwhelmingly evidence that the UKIP membership did not want Nigel to go.
"The NEC also concluded that UKIP's general election campaign had been a great success. We have fought a positive campaign with a very good manifesto and despite relentless, negative attacks and an astonishing last minute swing to the Conservatives over fear of the SNP, that in these circumstances, 4 million votes was an extraordinary achievement.
"On that basis Mr Farage withdrew his resignation and will remain leader of UKIP. In addition the NEC recognised that the referendum campaign has already begun this week and we need our best team to fight that campaign led by Nigel. He has therefore been persuaded by the NEC to withdraw his resignation and remains leader of UKIP."
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Hilarious, UKIP can't even run a resignation campaign. Heaven help Boston Borough Council where they are as large in numbers as the Tories.
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pogo wrote:They won’t let him go !
"As promised Nigel Farage tendered his official resignation as leader of UKIP to the NEC. This offer was unanimously rejected by the NEC members who produced overwhelmingly evidence that the UKIP membership did not want Nigel to go.
"The NEC also concluded that UKIP's general election campaign had been a great success. We have fought a positive campaign with a very good manifesto and despite relentless, negative attacks and an astonishing last minute swing to the Conservatives over fear of the SNP, that in these circumstances, 4 million votes was an extraordinary achievement.
"On that basis Mr Farage withdrew his resignation and will remain leader of UKIP. In addition the NEC recognised that the referendum campaign has already begun this week and we need our best team to fight that campaign led by Nigel. He has therefore been persuaded by the NEC to withdraw his resignation and remains leader of UKIP."
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Lol, as well as scuppering his SUMMER OF NIGEL it make this kind of moot as well

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Absolute_Zero wrote:Anyway, I'll offer you 10/1, to a maximum return of £1,000 if capital punishment is merely floated by Cameron.
10/1 on capital punishment being floated as an idea, without even having to go as far as being a free vote? I'll have a tenner on that.
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tufty wrote:
Absolute_Zero wrote:Anyway, I'll offer you 10/1, to a maximum return of £1,000 if capital punishment is merely floated by Cameron.
10/1 on capital punishment being floated as an idea, without even having to go as far as being a free vote? I'll have a tenner on that.
As I said, floated [as an idea or specifically proposed] by Cameron.
If someone murdered one of my children then emotionally, obviously I would want to kill them. How could you not? But there have been too many cases of things going wrong, of the wrong people being executed, of evidence coming to light after the execution, and sometimes there is just too much of an element of doubt. And I just don't honestly think that in a civilised society like ours that you can have the death penalty any more.
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