Schwarzanegger?

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Arnold expressed his admiration for Hitler's ability to bring himself from nothing to absolute power (which Hitler did in under 20 years), and for his ability to literally mesmirise with his public speaking.

Arnold's quote has been taken totally out of context to portray him as a goose-stepping Nazi. Even the producer of the film in which Arnold made the quote has said it was taken totally out of context.

His father was rumoured to be in the SA before the war and active during Anschluss, and served in the German army (SS) during the war.

Not that that should put any smear on Arnold's character, unless you're now guilty for the sins of your father. :roll:
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Mr_Flashpants wrote:Arnold expressed his admiration for Hitler's ability to bring himself from nothing to absolute power (which Hitler did in under 20 years), and for his ability to literally mesmirise with his public speaking.

Arnold's quote has been taken totally out of context to portray him as a goose-stepping Nazi.
That's the interview that they brought back. Arnold's campaign staff are not even trying to explain the context in which it was said. The day after they just released a story that Arnold used to break up neo-nazi parties on the weekends in his native village. Now they are back on the women issue with Bustamante, the Democratic candidate saying that Arnold should be investigated by the police for his serial groping.

It is has been a kind of fascinating to follow this campaign. Politics back home are quite boring compared to this one. Back home the politicians just argue about different economic platforms and their position on different political and social issues. Here is a lot more colourful. :wink:
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Right here we are. This was from Steve Wright's show on Radio 1. Let's hope the election ceremony doesn't go like this!
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Brilliant , hadn`t heard the hair-dresser one before.

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DutchLlama wrote:I thought amendments can only add new rules to the constitution, not change rules which are in the main text of the constitution.

The US constitution is a bit strange as it hasn't been changed since it was passed, only amended.
Belatedly, a few quick corrections to this:

1. Amendments can and do override and supercede portions of the constitution itself (and also other amendments). The obvious examples being amendments 13 though 15, which among other things completely overrode the formula for determining congressional representation laid down in the original constitution.

2. The text of the constitution itself can be changed, but that requires a full Constitutional Convention. (Which has never happened in the entire history of the country, and nobody is entirely sure what the proceedure would be if it did.)

Under current law, Arnold cannot run for President of the U.S., nor could he serve as Vice President. I'm not sure what the rules are for cabinet-level positions (Secretary of State, etc), but I suspect that anyone in the immediate line of succession to the presidency would also have to be a born citizen, or to disqualify themselves in advance.

In order for Arnold to become eligible, an amendment to the constitution allowing naturalized citizens to serve as President would have to, in order, pass both houses of congress with a two-to-one majority, and then be approved by a majority vote in 3/4 of the States in some reasonable time period. Given that Arnold is already in his late 50s and is only beginning his political career, I don't think this is terribly likely.

"Senator Schwartzenegger" is about the worst we have to fear here. Not that that isn't plenty bad. :evil:
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dr_memory wrote:"Senator Schwartzenegger" is about the worst we have to fear here. Not that that isn't plenty bad. :evil:
What do you mean Senator is the worse? He may become the Governor of this State in a few days? 8O Having Bush at Federal level is bad enough, now we'll have Arnie at the State level.
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PFVA wrote:What do you mean Senator is the worse? He may become the Governor of this State in a few days? 8O Having Bush at Federal level is bad enough, now we'll have Arnie at the State level.
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Although I feel your pain at the idea of Governor Schwartzenegger, believe me, Senator is worse. As Senator, he could, say, serve on the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. Or the Senate Armed Services Committee.

It's the difference between a national embarrassment and an international one.

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I see your point. I guess i wouldn't mind so much if he were to become Governor of Arizona, or Florida, instead of Governor of the State in which i happen to reside.
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well......having Arnie in wouldn't be THAT bad really would it...I mean JC we elected John Major!
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PFVA wrote:I see your point. I guess i wouldn't mind so much if he were to become Governor of Arizona, or Florida, instead of Governor of the State in which i happen to reside.
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Hold your tongue! That would be terrible. Florida is alright because it's already messed up enough. I doubt Arnie would be any worse than Jeb Bush. Anyhow, we don't need any more governers to totally embarrass us. We've had quite a few of them and I think we finally have a halfway decent one now.
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Maybe America NEEDS a Conan Emperor!!!!!!!!
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Well, it's official: Governor Schwarzenegger.

On behalf of my entire country, I'd just like to say: we're really, really embarrassed about this. 8O

Never in my life have I been so glad not to live in California.
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Nah, how bad could it be? At least his acting will improve. :twisted:
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i look forward to seeing what happens between now and x-mas,

he has stood as a republican, but his policies are very leftwing for the u.s.
you could almost mistake him for a democrat listening to his winners speech.


my guess, he will either pissoff the people by showing he was a lying cunt and force another recall.
(total-recall? :) )

or he will turn his back on the republican party and pissoff bush,rumsfeld and the evil troll carl-rove or row or whatever that dangerous bastard is called.

either way it's gonna be an interesting ride - another impending planecrash maybe?
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dr_memory wrote:Well, it's official: Governor Schwarzenegger.

On behalf of my entire country, I'd just like to say: we're really, really embarrassed about this. 8O

Never in my life have I been so glad not to live in California.
Or Minnesota. Didn't they have ex-wrestler Jesse Ventura as governor there? :wink:

At least he had a good opinion on religion: "Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers."

BTW: Ventura was in Predator with Arnie, I wonder how many more cast members get elected as governors. I vote for the Predator as governor! :lol:
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