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Jmar wrote:Wasn't Ronald Raygan (x-cuse the spellin) an actor b4 he became president?
Yes, he was. He was also a Union leader before he became a Republican, which happen after his marriage to Nancy. In a way, and under a similar principle will be interesting to see the influence of the Kennedy clan on Schwazenneger.
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See also Bill Hicks - Arizona Bay- big influence on Tool.
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PFVA wrote:Yeah... the 1st thing happening is George Bush will be here next week and he's looking forward to work with Arnold. (strong sarcastic entonation in my voice)
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is that helping arnold keep the air clean?
or is it helping arnold keep the water pure?
or is it the helping arnold help the poor?
(more sarcasm)

maybe the reason california is short of money is because it's full of aliens and rich bastards.

the aliens dont pay taxes and thanks to bush the rich dont pay much either.
no taxes = no state funds.
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They don't pay taxes? Little grey bastards!
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HIGHWAYMAN wrote:
maybe the reason california is short of money is because it's full of aliens and rich bastards.

the aliens dont pay taxes and thanks to bush the rich dont pay much either.
no taxes = no state funds.
It's a bit more complicate than that. It's the high unemployment. I think most people voted for Arnold because they are desperate. The business fled. People believe that Arnold will be able to bring the businesses back, and with them the well employed people who have money to spend.
Personally, i doubt. The state lost first the manufacturing industries to the 3rd World and in more recent years start loosing the services industry too. If companies can make more money by operating overseas they are not going to do it from here.
People are not working they don't pay income taxes. The ones working don't feel secure and they don't go in shopping sprees. Less shopping less tax income for the state, counties, and cities. Thousands of people left California either back to their countries or to their origin states. And those were well paid individuals who contributed a lot to the economy.

And there is other things:
The Federal Government has also been cutting the money to states but still mandating that services continue to be provided.


And the Democrats are not without fault either. When the State was having high revenues money was being wasted left and right. The Democrats created a giant Admnistrative machine, and even if it is true they increased the services, they could still have done it by spending a lot less money than they did.

Regarding the ilegal imigrants (aliens is the oficial word), it is true that thousands come across the board. If they are desperate enough to come here be paid 2.00/ basket to pick crops there is not much they can do to stop them . Besides it's very convenient to local companies and to the farmers to have such cheap labour available. The Republicans may make political talk out of it but they are not going to stop that. It's too convenient for their political supporters. The State is required by the Federal goverment to provide emergency medi-cal for the ilegal aliens, and yes that costs a lot of money but that has to do with Public Health. They don't want to have a bunch of people running around spreading tuberculosis or other contagious diseases or being pregnant and having kids with no heath care.
Regarding the rich paying more taxes. :lol: That's never going to happen here. The middle class pays the most taxes. Nor Democrats nor Republicans will touch that.
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PFVA wrote:
HIGHWAYMAN wrote:
Regarding the rich paying more taxes. :lol: That's never going to happen here. The middle class pays the most taxes. Nor Democrats nor Republicans will touch that.
Maybe they should have a party for the middle class one of these days.

Poor people may make up 30% of the electorate and they have the Democrats, the fat cats who make up less than 1% have the Republicunts and the remainder 59% have ???

But the middle class is the least likely group to stir things up. It's always the people on the bottom heap and the elite that change things in politics. The first by fighting for their rights and the latter by manipulating politics by giving lots of money to candidates so they'll vote their way.

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HIGHWAYMAN wrote: the aliens dont pay taxes
Ahem. I pay stacks of tax. If you count it all up I probably pay more tax here than I did in the UK. :(
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i meant income-tax, not sales tax,fuel tax,alcahol tax etch.
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I completely agree. I pay stacks of income tax. Ask the IRS if you wish...
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I pay at least as much tax here as I did in England (as a % of income), and that's without including all the extra stuff like the new Car tax, health insurance, etc.
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DutchLlama wrote:believe it or not, this is my post no. 500!

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Sargie wrote:I pay at least as much tax here as I did in England (as a % of income), and that's without including all the extra stuff like the new Car tax, health insurance, etc.
I dunno, when I lived in NYC the taxes were quite stiff and the fact that they always added some sales tax really did piss me off - I mean I know we do pay tax on everything we buy here in Europe, but at least you can see how much you are going to pay in total while you are shopping. The "add taxes when you get the wallet out" thingy really pissed me off and then the additional tax in CA was also quite weird.
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cyric100 wrote:
HIGHWAYMAN wrote: the aliens dont pay taxes
Ahem. I pay stacks of tax. If you count it all up I probably pay more tax here than I did in the UK. :(
I think he was referring to the ilegal aliens.
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I just can't see how dear-old Arnie is going to turn around a 30 billion deficit in Cali's finances. I mean, he's kinda already committed to high spending on education and such like. I suppose California and the US in general needs an economic upturn, and quick.

I note Bush is flying out to see him next week. Arnie would be a good partner in the upcoming elections I bet.
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We just sat around and had a little discussion, somebody mentioned that Arnie being gov. is not too bad - after all Germany once had an Austrian leader... Took me a full 30 seconds to realize the implication....
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