Star Trek Beyond

[Truder]

The trailer has dropped



Trailer looks.... disappointing really but then again, what Star Trek fan wouldn't say that?

[anon76235]

BOOM

[Istar]

Now, let's just remind ourselves that this is a trailer. It is a 90-second snapshot of a movie that is probably still in post-production, and is therefore quite likely to be no more representative of the finished product than a drop of water is representative of an ocean.

When I saw the trailers for JJA's re-imagined Star Trek, and then Into Darkness, I caught that old familiar feeling, the excitement, the anticipation, the sense of scale, the taste of adventure and the unknown, the thrill of once more Boldly Going.

But this. This is ... empty. Yes, it has Kirk and Spock and McCoy and the Enterprise and space and aliens and Strange New Worlds, but it's like Eric Morcambe describing his piano-playing: all the right notes, just not necessarily in the right order. It has all the hallmarks of a generic 201x action movie - it's a stick of rock with Star Trek written on the outside and the word 'FORMULA' etched through the core.

I really, really hope this is a bluff. Like, "Let's get something out there in Star Wars week to remind everyone we're alive and kicking, but give nothing away. After all, this movie is our 50th Anniversary release - we're hardly going to drop the ball on this one, are we? LOLZ". The trouble is, if it *is* a bluff, it's too convincing. And if it's not a bluff, it's too awful to contemplate.

For the very first time in my life, there's a Star Trek movie coming and I don't care.

[Daniel]

It looks more like a super hero movie than a Star Trek movie.

[Istar]

I'm a die-hard lifelong Trekkie. Today I have seen a trailer for the new Trek movie, and for Independence Day: Resurgence. And the one that has made me sit up and go 'OOOOH WANT' wasn't the Trek movie.

[gravy]

The trailer has dropped

Not as much as my jaw.

Simon Pegg cowrites script, lots of Simon Pegg in trailer. Hmmmmmm

[anon76235]

Boo hoo

[Deckard]

The trailer has dropped

Not as much as my jaw.

Simon Pegg cowrites script, lots of Simon Pegg in trailer. Hmmmmmm

Loved Simon Pegg in Spaced... not so keen on some of his later stuff (Man Up anyone ? ) and lets def not talk about Jessica Hynes awful suffragette "comedy"

[Governmentyard]

All the Trek films are typical of the era that made them. The first one was full-on 70s slow-burn stuff, the eighties ones became progressively cheesier, the 90s ones had all the trappings of the TV series and the '02 film was a post-Matrix thing that was about as wank as most sci-fi efforts of the time. The reboots have been no less typical of their zippier, more knowing era and this look like a bunch of stuff out at the moment. Every now and again, a dead good one comes along. Just like Star Wars, Marvel and the rest.

It's all entirely normal and if Star trek nerds weren't pissed off about it, I'd probably not feel a great urgency to watch it. Meanwhile, looking forward to Trek films reflecting current cinematic narrative, production and stylistic trends for years to come. It's a bit of folklore now, same as Rings, Star Wars etc... no matter how much some want there to be a definitive canon. The retelling has begin and will continue endlessly, like Robin Hood. For every "Robin of Sherwood", there's a "Men in Tights" and thank fuck for that.

[Governmentyard]

(Man Up anyone ? )

Yes please. It's a fully typical by-the-numbers British feelgood odd-couple rom-com marketable to Americans, but it's a really, really good one. Lake Bell is absolutely superb in it and Pegg is at his best. He'd done a few of these but this is head and shoulders above the rest. Daft and heartwarming, it's one of my favourite films of recent times.

[venusian]

It looks okay to me. The original series was a smorgasbord of TV genres. Here comes the action episode.

And I spelt smorgasbord right the first time. Yay for me.

[Baggypants]

For the very first time in my life, there's a Star Trek movie coming and I don't care.

What, really? Even Nemesis?

[Fox]

So Kirk and co get to fight the Narn this time?

[Istar]

I should clarify: as a lifelong Trekkie, all Trek is inherently good, even if it's not actually good. Nemesis, though deeply flawed, had some interesting facets that pushed the franchise forward. Hell, even The Final Frontier had some good SFX and some interesting McCoy backstory (though most of that never got off the page on to the screen, alas).

I'm not disappointed that Beyond isn't currently fulfilling my requirements for a Star Trek movie because it in some way contravenes some minor (or major) canon point, or rewrites the entire timeline, or breaks some other nerdy lore/law that forces hundreds of virgins to ragequit cinemas the world over. No. I am disappointed that it's looking like a generic 201x ensemble-cast action movie that could be in ANY setting. Blink when the Enterprise is in shot, and this is indistinguishable from all the other teen/tween-culture movies that specialise in jump cuts, fight scenes, bromances, motorbike/car stunts, rapid-fire-dialogue, and effects-led story-telling.

This isn't Star Trek. This is Hunger Games, Fast & Furious, Battleship, Transformers, that atrocious Gundam-inspired abomination, Battle LA, etc. None of which are bad (except for that atrocious Gundam-inspired abomination) because they're good old-fashioned "disengage brain and say ooooh" action FX blockbusters.

But they're not what Star Trek is all about. Star Trek has always told a story, made you think, shown you that the muscle between your ears is the important one. Anyone can blow stuff up. Star Trek makes you want to build things.

[pogo]

I liked the new Trek trailer. It looks a lot of fun mostly, much more than their last outing. The Independence Day trailer on the other hand looked like a mess. Of the two I know which has got me more interested.