Star Trek Beyond

[pete_uplink]

I've given up hope that we may get a proper Star Trek movie any time soon. Looks like we're stuck with this Star Trek comic book version from now on.

[anon76235]

Beyond the pale

[Istar]

Outside of his collaborations with Edgar Wright, he's made some awful movies.

Really? I'm intrigued which you find awful, as (of those I've seen) I've enjoyed them - Sean of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Paul, The World's End...

[Ollie]

Outside of his collaborations with Edgar Wright, he's made some awful movies.

Really? I'm intrigued which you find awful, as (of those I've seen) I've enjoyed them - Sean of the Dead, Hot Fuzz, Paul, The World's End...

Three of those are collaborations with Edgar Wright. Paul is OK but not as good as the Wright collaborations. But a lot of the rest have been pretty bad.

[Istar]

So I'm told - I'm still hoping for at least one example though...

[gravy]

I don't like Paul much either. I think that and Run Fatboy Run are the worriers for me; big movies he was scriptwriter without Edgar Wright and both pretty bad.

For his writing on Star Trek Beyond to be any good he's going have to break the duck of writing movies outside of his Wright collaboration that aren't average at best.

[Istar]

Well, such is the variety of taste - I thought Paul was great, and RFR mostly amusing if a little Richard Curtis-like.

[Ollie]

The Toby Young one was awful; Herbert and the Search for Happiness or whatever it was called wasn't great; and I've not seen it but the recent Terry Jones one has had terrible reviews.

Oh hang on, we're talking about other films he's written? There's only been Paul, RFR, and the Edgar Wright collabs, hasn't there?

[Darkflame]

IMDB credits him only as one of a bunch on Trek Beyond;

Writing Credits
Simon Pegg ... (written by) &
Doug Jung ... (written by) and
Roberto Orci ... (written by) &
John D. Payne ... (written by) &
Patrick McKay ... (written by)

I dunno if all the others are some sort of insignificant "contributed something at some stage" or if its genuinely more a team thing and Pegg just gets the attention.

Also of interest perhaps, Peggis credited as co-writing SPACED with Jessica Hynes - Wright being the director, but no writing credit;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187664/fullcredits

[k345y]

The new ST's are brilliant simply because the cast capture the essence of the original cast's characters.

That's what keeps ST together.
I look forward to the relationships between the main characters more than the story.

It's far more fun than the new SW.

[KlaxonCow]

I dunno if all the others are some sort of insignificant "contributed something at some stage" or if its genuinely more a team thing and Pegg just gets the attention.

From how I heard it, Pegg wrote it.

But then the executives brought others in to "fix" it, and "assist" him in bringing them the script that they were expecting and so forth.

[gravy]

It's the other way around. The final script is by Pegg and Doug Jung while the others wrote the original script that was discarded. And the rumours are that the cast liked that script but the execs didn't.

Sounds like Ant Man. And that turned out okay I guesse.

[Darkflame]

Ant-Man was great, which was amazing given you would have thought Edgar Wright leaving the project would have had nothing but negative effects.

From what I read though, the issue with Wright there was simply he was with the project since before even Marvel had a cinematic universe. His script thus didn't fit too well into it, and the changes were all done to get it consistent with everything else.
Given the film still seems quite "Wright-ish" to me, I suspect the main change was stuff with the Avengers HQ scene, rather then anything tonely or character wise.

[Ollie]

The shoehorning in of the MCU was pretty much the worst thing about Ant Man. Luckily this negative effect of Edgar Wright leaving the project was relatively minor.

[pete_uplink]

IMDB credits him only as one of a bunch on Trek Beyond;

Writing Credits
Simon Pegg ... (written by) &
Doug Jung ... (written by) and
Roberto Orci ... (written by) &
John D. Payne ... (written by) &
Patrick McKay ... (written by)

I dunno if all the others are some sort of insignificant "contributed something at some stage" or if its genuinely more a team thing and Pegg just gets the attention.

Also of interest perhaps, Peggis credited as co-writing SPACED with Jessica Hynes - Wright being the director, but no writing credit;
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0187664/fullcredits

Most likely. I remember reading that there was a huge argument, and subsequent falling out, between Paramount and Nicholas Meyer due to two guys who'd looked at the script The Wrath of Khan, but not contributing anything to it, getting co-writer statuses.