Star Wars: The Force Awakens - with **SPOILERS**

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I hated Poe TBH.

He was a brash Americanised newbie that was contrived and obviously 'trying' to be a new character of repute, ala classic hero stylee...classic hero who hasn't earned his......'wings' ! ;) .

Was a bit pissed he reappeared. Feels like he's being 'forced' upon us. On the other hand as you say...it's all a bit introductory.
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My guess is that his character is more aimed at one of the spin-off movies, while the main 'saga' will concentrate on the Family Skywalker And Their Endless Dithering About Which Side To Be On.
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Just booked to go again tomorrow (2D 'Imax' is now on offer this week), this time with my 8 year old in tow.

Excited all over again. :)
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The fact previously mentioned 8 year old is currently in the shower right now 'singing' the SW theme at the top of his voice suggests that was a worthwhile trip!

:)

He did think it was Obi Wan, not Luke, at the end, so was a little confused.

Loved the second viewing, to be honest could go again tomorrow if I had the time and it wasn't so expensive.

The one question I have after this one I don't think we've previously discussed, is why does Leia go straight to Rey and hug her at the end? She doesn't know her, and she ignores her good friend Chewie who has just suffered the comparable loss of Han that she has...
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Misfit wrote:The one question I have after this one I don't think we've previously discussed, is why does Leia go straight to Rey and hug her at the end? She doesn't know her, and she ignores her good friend Chewie who has just suffered the comparable loss of Han that she has...
She knew Rey well enough to see that she was idolizing Han. I noticed the lack of attention for Chewie, though. Maybe he gave Leia a "just let me go brood for a while" look that we didn't see. He's always been a bit of a loner. Or maybe "ignore the Wookiee at the end" was just another callback to ep4.
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Saw it again during the week with our children.
This time IMAX 3D.
My silly grin was somewhat dampened by the experience in the cinema where there was no significant height increase from row to row such that my view was spoiled by the guy in front (who wasn't very tall). Thankfully was able to move seats but given how expensive the cinema is I'd be reluctant to go to the venue again (leicester square empire).

3D was pretty good with very few "hey look at what we can do" - (just the star destroyer poking out comes to mind).

As for plot - suspension of disbelief is essential as there are too many holes in it and to be honest I don't care I really enjoyed the film
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ThetaReactor wrote: She knew Rey well enough to see that she was idolizing Han.
Sorry not going for that. Can't see how she knew Rey at all, they had never met and all we had before was when she told Fin she'd see what we can do about your friend, but you have to tell us about Starkiller first.
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I agree....it's baseless shite.
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I can't help but think there must have been some dialogue bits that were cut in the final edit - where Rey and Leia get to know each other, and where there was more discussion about what to do to stop Death Star 3. The whole section seemed a bit short to me
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Anyway, finally saw TFA.
My views, probably not very original;

Positives;

+ characters/small scale interactions
+ relationship aspect and returning characters were well handled, I feared it would be too forced or chessy
+ some nice environments/settings
+ I liked Maz
+ I liked the dream/visions when she first touchs the lightsaber
+ I liked the force-frozen energy beam at the start. I have seen this done before in other sci-fis, but it was still cool.
+ Likewise the bloodbending.
+ Overall very enjoyable, despite the following;

Negatives

- Big threat retread. Worse, a retread of a retread.
- And not just the big threat, so much was just repeating scenes we have seen before.

- Really? The big bad hocks the projector up to make themselves look big. Inferiority complex much? :P

- Reys plot could have used more work in regards to her force awareness. She masters control of people far too easily.....yet she doesn't seem to feel anything when a whole solar-system of people get killed? hu?
Imho, they should have made that the moment she realizes the extent she is linked into everything. Also, make her escape some other way, and have her pulling the lightsaber towards her the first major use of her ability's. I think that progression would have worked better and would have been more of a impact.

- Directing; Lucas would have done a better job. *gasp* I know I said it. Abrams did nothing terrible, and certainly the writing and everything else was better then the prequels. But in terms of cinematography he is too quick. Especially near the start. You have wonderful landscapes - hold on them a bit! Not every cut has to be 2 seconds max! He has the action done great,but he needs to also lets us have some of the wonder! Guess its just a product of their eras of filmmaking.

Credits;

I was pleased too see Warrick Davis was in the movie although I didn't see him.
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Darkflame wrote:I was pleased too see Warrick Davis was in the movie although I didn't see him.
He was a small spod in the bar apparently
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I thought it was crap. Started off good then just got boring towards the end. Just drag on and on. The stupid girl Rey seem to pick up the force pretty fast like it was nothing. Considering how long it took Luke. I thought the girl being the hero of the movie and the black guy - were there more for PC reason - than anything else. Kylo Ren Taking his mask ruin the whole mystique. All that running around for poxy map - where stupid Luke was, was a crap idea for a plot TBH. Then to top it off, with a crap ending. Where the stupid girl Rey stood holding out the light-saber and Luke in his dirty clothes turns around. The End. What a load of shit. disappointed - prefer the originals. Han solo dying who cares. As if he could bring home is Dick Head nobody cares actor son back.
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Meow wrote:I thought it was crap. Started off good then just got boring towards the end. Just drag on and on. The stupid girl Rey seem to pick up the force pretty fast like it was nothing. Considering how long it took Luke. I thought the girl being the hero of the movie and the black guy - were there more for PC reason - than anything else. Kylo Ren Taking his mask ruin the whole mystique. All that running around for poxy map - where stupid Luke was, was a crap idea for a plot TBH. Then to top it off, with a crap ending. Where the stupid girl Rey stood holding out the light-saber and Luke in his dirty clothes turns around. The End. What a load of shit. disappointed - prefer the originals. Han solo dying who cares. As if he could bring home is Dick Head nobody cares actor son back.
So, overall a thumbs up from you then
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We were a bit underwhelmed, the "twists" were predictable and plot mirrored originals a little too closely.

Not terrible, but not worthy of the hype.
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Portland wrote:We were a bit underwhelmed, the "twists" were predictable and plot mirrored originals a little too closely.

Not terrible, but not worthy of the hype.

No i didn't think so either. The force seem a little to easy for the stupid Rey girl to pick up and she had no trouble fighting a Master of the darkness with years years and years of training like it was nothing. Forget Yodi who needs him to learn the force. Mmm probably the next movie Rey will struggle to pick up the force. Also most of the computer generated stuff looks pretty terrible when Rey first got on the hover bike, that really looked bad and some of Aliens just didn't have any realism too them. Especially the orange mouse woman with the big round glasses. (typically Disney let's have a mouse) You could see that was not her hand when she handed over the light saber. Must have been the directors grandmothers hand. Also the supreme leader look like Gandoff a bit too much...The first 3 Starwars where just so much better. Not a single laugh in the movie either. Not peep out audience who sat silently though out the whole movie and the theater was full.
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