Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

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Re: Fool me, this is real good shit ! [Oculus Rift]

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gravy wrote:Wonder if they've even decided. Bit of a weird situation with Sony and Valve waiting in the wings.

In the old days you take a hit on the HW to make money of software sales but it hasn't been that way for a while.

Exciting though :D
It's back to the old - old days like in 8 bit times when you had to pay for the privilege of everything, they'll need a bloody good ad campaign and some killer titles ready for release for the launch. I know the last wave of VR in the 90's doesn't compare but I'm wondering just how many people will hold off due to thinking it will be another failed and largely unsupported fad, this is where the likes of Sony can step in and do bundle deals with their current console.
Mqark wrote:First to market is the Gear VR which I have sitting at home. A genuine, full VR headset that is commercially available now.

If people mean first to market as in it's attached by a wire to a PC or console then sure, Gear VR doesn't count.

However, I've sat at home enjoying exactly the same sorts of experiences on the Gear as the early VR demos and experiments with my DK1 and DK2.

I will be buying a consumer Rift for the deep, complex experiences that a high power games machine with masses of storage can deliver - but for casual gaming and experiences the Gear VR is fit for purpose.
GearVR only works if you already have a Samsung handset.

Which, so far as I can tell, makes the rest cheaper if you haven't already joined the Samsung clique.
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zip accident wrote:GearVR only works if you already have a Samsung handset.

Which, so far as I can tell, makes the rest cheaper if you haven't already joined the Samsung clique.
True that it needs a Samsung handset - I'm lucky in that way.

I wasn't talking about cost, however I suspect total cost for an all in budget PC experience ~ 900 pounds (of course YMMV), PS4 ~ 500 pounds and my Gear VR experience was 500 (420 pounds for my un-subsidised S6 phone + 80 pounds for the Gear VR).

Buying a suitable (to recommended VR spec) PC is something that is ripe for endless arguments about what you need and what you can get away with, so I'm not going to get into that. I do believe that unless Oculus are brave enough to sell under the cost of manufacture or they have worked out a cracking deal on the component cost that they will come in at about 200 to 350 quid. This is based on what both the DK1 and DKII cost (which I thought at the time were very reasonable).
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Shoot - I Didn't back it on Kickstarter - I only got both devkits post KS.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/free-ocu ... rs/0160916
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Mqark wrote:I wasn't talking about cost, however I suspect total cost for an all in budget PC experience ~ 900 pounds (of course YMMV), PS4 ~ 500 pounds and my Gear VR experience was 500 (420 pounds for my un-subsidised S6 phone + 80 pounds for the Gear VR).

Buying a suitable (to recommended VR spec) PC is something that is ripe for endless arguments about what you need and what you can get away with, so I'm not going to get into that.
Well, yeah, but you already had a Samsung, I already have a probably adequate PC, so we're sort of stuck on different tracks, it'd cost either of us more to change tracks than it would to stick with what we have.
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And so it begins, eh?

Could peripheral compatibility be the thing that replaces the 'killer app' in steering people's initial buying decisions?
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Order placed !!!! :skip:

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£530 (with shipping) though. 8O

They start shipping on March 28 apparently to 20 countries.
Also available from retailers in April.

Full details are here.
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Tried - failed: problems with any credit card I entered... (and even paypal)

Price stated as 699 euros without shipping.

I'll try again later in the week.
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I think I'm going to wait it out a little. Price is a little steep for the amount of time I can actually devote to playing with it at the moment
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Tried again - got it this time! :skip:
(I'm probably REALLY far down the list now though...)

741 euros!

The Oculus Remote is something I hadn't heard of before - something else to lose down the back of the sofa!
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Just ordered one as well, looks like it'll be a bit of a wait to get it ... £529 as well. (Will be great to see how Elite plays on the VR!!)
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Underwhelmed to be honest even if it was Mac compatible - lets see what Sony offer.....
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Yikes, that's a lot of money.

I thought they were planning on selling it cheap(ish) so that a massive number of people would get on board and turn it into a much bigger thing. If this is their idea of cheap.... well, I did expect VR folks to be removed from "reality", but it seems far further than I thought it would be.

Oculus Remote looks like the 2016 version CD-i controller, hahaha.
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They said they wanted to produce the best thing they could first despite what it may end up costing with a view to maybe doing something cheaper later.

I think they are frightened of 'poisoning the well' as John Carmack puts it.
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Deckard wrote:Underwhelmed to be honest even if it was Mac compatible - lets see what Sony offer.....
Yes, I'm interested to see what Sony & HTC have to announce soon hopefully.
I think I will probably end up buying one or both of these too.
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I think they overpriced it. The required PC to run it well is not especially cheap and 530 quid seems like a lot of cash for a headset with only a few proven games.

I would have loved it for Elite but 530 quid is too much at 300 quid It would be purchased, but not at this price.
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