Trump

[pogo]

"Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland"

Bullshit headline. He halted major investment, that's all. He still has two places in Scotland. The estate in Aberdeen is stunning.

I think they were referring to this:

When the Aberdeenshire plan was approved, Mr Trump said: "We will appeal this decision, and in the meantime we will be focusing all of our investment and energy towards our new acquisition on the Atlantic Ocean in Ireland."

“turns his back” seems a fair way to put it. Literally if you think of him going from there to Ireland.

He could pull out completely; sell up so he has no property here. But that would make little material difference to Scotland as they would still be owned by someone, making money for someone, employing the same people. With an owner not so tied up in politics they might even do better.

[k345y]

Closer to home and more immediate....

He's threatening to lift his inward investment from Scotland. Something a bit more immediate and UK based as a non starter 'actual' presidential candidate who's a master of publicity.
And by the by, it may be the second time I've said it but if that 'investment' was in londinium there would be far more comments on it, just happens to be so far up north no one gives a shit...apparently.

But he did that in 2014, almost two years ago:
Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland

Most people have forgotten as it was not that big a deal at the time, just mildly entertaining. Showed how little he understood Scotland, or Britain in general (as I doubt he would have got a different result elsewhere in the UK).

It’s not as if, if he were President, he would have time to be running golf courses in Scotland. So there’s really nothing to it. The idiots that follow him on Twitter won’t know that, so it serves its purpose, it looks like he is paying back the British for having the gall to even consider banning him from the UK.

"Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland"

Bullshit headline. He halted major investment, that's all. He still has two places in Scotland. The estate in Aberdeen is stunning.

Meanwhile Tony Blair's profits are up by tens of millions as an advisor to the middle east. You couldn't make it up.

Yeah, shit url again.

The estate in Aberdeen maybe 'stunning' to look at and more so ' stunning' if you can 'afford' to be 'stunned' by it.... you couldn't make 'that' shit up!

Personally, regardless of it all, if a presidential wannabe halts investment in any part of the UK and it's whittled down to 'that's all' it calls for far more concern than the obvious dismissive small potatoes attitude twats around here are showing.

[gumboot]

There should be no doubt he is referencing two incidents. He would have probably mentioned Rotherham with more characters available.

Yeah, that's my point. The comment on Germany is clearly a separate comment... on Germany. It's very hard to imagine that he'd overlook Cologne, or that he'd consider only one Paris shooting a mess. So to say that he's somehow implying that Paris is in Germany because he mentioned Paris and also mentioned Germany is daft.

Heard on the radio this morning that one of the suspects is American. That's probably just going to strengthen the case for concentrationinternment camps, though, isn't it.

[pogo]

Seem Trump doesn’t like losing, or coming second. So as soon as one of his rivals pulls ahead in the polls, even if only one poll and so briefly, he starts to play dirty by questioning his opponent’s citizenship.

Trump has form on this as being one of the most prominent proponents of the Birther challenge to Obama. This was the entirely spurious claim that Obama was not entitled to be president as he was not American. It was complete nonsense, largely based on people’s racist assumptions. Obama was born in the US, in Hawaii, not the sort of thing that’s easy to fake. Eventually Obama published his birth certificate to make most of them go away, but he really didn’t need to. No right minded person doubted his legitimacy.

Just one of many episodes that should disqualify Trump from even running, so it takes a certain twisted genius to try it again against one of his Republican rivals. And in theory there is more of a case to answer as the rival, Ted Cruz, was born outside the US, in Canada. Most legal experts think it does not matter, Cruz is American as his mother was American. But facts like that are not very important in Republican politics. All Trump needs to do is sow some doubt and persuade some voters, who perhaps still think Trump was right over Obama’s birth, that Cruz [too] might be ineligible to be president.

[gumboot]

I remember Obama joking about Trump chasing after Canadians after his own birth certificate had been produced, but I didn't know what he was on about at the time.

I don't think any Republicans want him around anymore, but if they kick him out he'll run anyway and split the total-fucktard voters that the Republican party usually relies on.

There's nothing they can do to stop him. The question is whether they're willing to throw the election to stop him being president. I think they probably should.

[PumaG]

Closer to home and more immediate....

He's threatening to lift his inward investment from Scotland. Something a bit more immediate and UK based as a non starter 'actual' presidential candidate who's a master of publicity.
And by the by, it may be the second time I've said it but if that 'investment' was in londinium there would be far more comments on it, just happens to be so far up north no one gives a shit...apparently.

But he did that in 2014, almost two years ago:
Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland

Most people have forgotten as it was not that big a deal at the time, just mildly entertaining. Showed how little he understood Scotland, or Britain in general (as I doubt he would have got a different result elsewhere in the UK).

It’s not as if, if he were President, he would have time to be running golf courses in Scotland. So there’s really nothing to it. The idiots that follow him on Twitter won’t know that, so it serves its purpose, it looks like he is paying back the British for having the gall to even consider banning him from the UK.

"Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland"

Bullshit headline. He halted major investment, that's all. He still has two places in Scotland. The estate in Aberdeen is stunning.

Meanwhile Tony Blair's profits are up by tens of millions as an advisor to the middle east. You couldn't make it up.

Yeah, shit url again.

The estate in Aberdeen maybe 'stunning' to look at and more so ' stunning' if you can 'afford' to be 'stunned' by it.... you couldn't make 'that' shit up!

Personally, regardless of it all, if a presidential wannabe halts investment in any part of the UK and it's whittled down to 'that's all' it calls for far more concern than the obvious dismissive small potatoes attitude twats around here are showing.

oh, so you took offence because I dislike the sensationalist media. Were you the author of the article that wrongly implies that Trump no longer has investment in the UK ?

the Aberdeen estate offends you too by the sounds of it As it happens it is stunning in the context that Britain offers a lot of shit in that market. so no you don't need to 'afford' to be stunned by it, the attention to detail and Un-Uk like sophistication is enough.

Who is really that concerned that Trump took further investment to Ireland instead? This is loose change compared to the foreign aid the government invests (often in countries the US has broken) for much more lucrative contracts for UK companies.
A Trump foreign policy could be potentially damaging financially to the UK to the tune of billions of dollars. That's the real reason they don't like him.

[pogo]

I remember Obama joking about Trump chasing after Canadians after his own birth certificate had been produced, but I didn't know what he was on about at the time.

For Democrats it must be highly entertaining. While they have a traditional debate between the socialist and realist wings of their party, with no-one doubting the outcome, the Republican party is engaged in civil war. The three front runners are Trump, Cruz and Ben Carson. The thing they have in common is they are anti-establishment. Trump and Carson have never held political office. Cruz is a senator but has distinguished himself by opposing every constructive action of the party.

The problem, for the Republican party, is it has become a toxic brand over the years. It has taken the approach of supporting a particular set of views and policies, and sticking to them no matter the cost and disruption. So rather than negotiate over the budget it insists on its version even allowing the government to shut down before it blinks. The problem is the US does not have a parliamentary system; one party cannot force through its agenda. There has to be negotiation and consensus, and responsibility is normally divided. The Republicans reject this, seemingly hoping to make the President so unpopular his party loses the election.

Except it has backfired badly on them. Although the President is seen as unpopular and ineffective, Republicans in Congress are seen as worse. Even more unpopular and ineffective, and tainted by actually working within the system. That’s why anti-establishment figures like Trump, Carson and Cruz are doing so well, while mainstream Republicans like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie are languishing with single digit polling figures.

[k345y]

Closer to home and more immediate....

He's threatening to lift his inward investment from Scotland. Something a bit more immediate and UK based as a non starter 'actual' presidential candidate who's a master of publicity.
And by the by, it may be the second time I've said it but if that 'investment' was in londinium there would be far more comments on it, just happens to be so far up north no one gives a shit...apparently.

But he did that in 2014, almost two years ago:
Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland

Most people have forgotten as it was not that big a deal at the time, just mildly entertaining. Showed how little he understood Scotland, or Britain in general (as I doubt he would have got a different result elsewhere in the UK).

It’s not as if, if he were President, he would have time to be running golf courses in Scotland. So there’s really nothing to it. The idiots that follow him on Twitter won’t know that, so it serves its purpose, it looks like he is paying back the British for having the gall to even consider banning him from the UK.

"Defeated Donald Trump turns his back on Scotland"

Bullshit headline. He halted major investment, that's all. He still has two places in Scotland. The estate in Aberdeen is stunning.

Meanwhile Tony Blair's profits are up by tens of millions as an advisor to the middle east. You couldn't make it up.

Yeah, shit url again.

The estate in Aberdeen maybe 'stunning' to look at and more so ' stunning' if you can 'afford' to be 'stunned' by it.... you couldn't make 'that' shit up!

Personally, regardless of it all, if a presidential wannabe halts investment in any part of the UK and it's whittled down to 'that's all' it calls for far more concern than the obvious dismissive small potatoes attitude twats around here are showing.

oh, so you took offence because I dislike the sensationalist media. Were you the author of the article that wrongly implies that Trump no longer has investment in the UK ?

the Aberdeen estate offends you too by the sounds of it As it happens it is stunning in the context that Britain offers a lot of shit in that market. so no you don't need to 'afford' to be stunned by it, the attention to detail and Un-Uk like sophistication is enough.

Who is really that concerned that Trump took further investment to Ireland instead? This is loose change compared to the foreign aid the government invests (often in countries the US has broken) for much more lucrative contracts for UK companies.
A Trump foreign policy could be potentially damaging financially to the UK to the tune of billions of dollars. That's the real reason they don't like him.

Took offence, moi ?

Don't flatter yourself

As for the Aberdeen estate, yeah, elitist golf resorts tend to offend me in general, not the Trump one in particular/per se. Not that I need to justify myself, just wouldn't want any windbags or you reading into it and casting assertions any further than you already have

[pogo]

Another debate last night. These are getting more watchable as we get to know the candidates and as numbers are thinned out. Only one person on stage, John Kasich, is what I would count as an absolute no-hoper, the other six all have a chance.

The highlight was Trump and Cruz on the Birther issue, i.e. on whether Cruz might be disqualified for being born in Canada. There were no surprises but they both came well prepared, and had some of their best moments of this or any other debate. Here it is again in case you missed it:

[Governmentyard]

Heaven forbid that the cunt in charge should be someone that everybody knows is a cunt.


That would never do.

[gumboot]

Someone who believes vaccines cause autism. Exactly what we need.

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[Purple Grapefruit]

I'm so confused nowadays. I can't distinguish between parody and reality any more.

[PFVA]

As far as I remember US law says that the child of an american parent living overseas is a native, this is by birth US Citizen if registered as so at the Embassy. Then there is something about making a choice around 18 or 21 about keeping the nationality or not. I mean if Cruz had chosen to be a Canadian citizen and stayed living in Canada he could loose the US citizenship. If he has been living in the US and paying his taxes as a US Citizen he is a US Citizen.

Out of curiosity does the First Lady needs to be a by birth US Citizen. I ask that because the First Lady has not just a role but also a defined job as First Lady and i remember Trump beig married to a European woman, not the first wife some time after, or has he divorced that one too?

I hate to say but by using that card Trump can pull some votes. A lot of the Republicans are very suspicious of anyone not born in the US.

[pogo]

Sadly I have read far too much recently on this than is good for me. The constitution actually says you need to be a “natural born citizen” but does not define what that means. Most people think it includes people like Cruz who became American citizens at birth by virtue of one or both of their parents being Americans who had lived in the US for a certain period of time. In Cruz’s case his mother was American.

But “natural born citizen” is not formally defined. It clearly excludes foreign born people who naturalise as Americans later. Arnold Schwarzenegger for example was governor of California but could not become president without a constitutional amendment. But the US has had no problem with candidates born outside the US who qualify due to their parents before now. E.g. John McCain, Republican candidate eight years ago was born in Panama. Mitt Romney who was Republican candidate four years ago, his father George Romney was born in Mexico but also ran for president.