Trump

[pogo]

Lol. You know, that question would only be asked of a woman. She is younger than Sanders and Trump, and of Reagan when he became president (the first time – he was four years older his second term).

[zip accident]

Lol. You know, that question would only be asked of a woman.

Yeah, because they age better.

I was asking because I don't know how old or not she is. Bill Clinton was President how many years ago?

[pogo]

Lol. You know, that question would only be asked of a woman.

Yeah, because they age better.

I was asking because I don't know how old or not she is. Bill Clinton was President how many years ago?

GW Bush and Obama have been president since, two terms each, and they hold elections every four years. Easy to work out if you don’t actually know it.

[zip accident]

Lol. You know, that question would only be asked of a woman.

Yeah, because they age better.

I was asking because I don't know how old or not she is. Bill Clinton was President how many years ago?

GW Bush and Obama have been president since, two terms each, and they hold elections every four years. Easy to work out if you don’t actually know it.

Supposing I remembered who the intervening presidents were.

Lewinsky for Pres in four?

[pogo]

Hard to forget I would think. Obama is the current one and George W Bush is so closely associated with Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan that he’s impossible to forget. Another clue: When was 9/11?: GWB had only been president a year when it happened, after beating VP Al Gore in a very close and contentious election. Gore was VP to Bill Clinton’s presidency.

[zip accident]

Hard to forget I would think.

You would be mistaken.

It comes to all of us.

[merman]

Interesting that Michael Moore is publicly declaring his support for Bernie Sanders. And that polling of independent voters regularly puts Bernie ahead of both Trump and Clinton, especially in voters aged 18-44.

The media seems to be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"Trump cannot be stopped" is rapidly turning into "Trump has maintained his unstoppable momentum". But they really need to start questioning him more.

[PFVA]

I.e. it may be the last we see of Jeb Bush, and so of any Bush, in a national election. Some people’s fantasy of another Bush-Clinton matchup seems now very unlikely.

How old is this Clinton?

<Dr Who>Does she seem a bit tired? </Dr Who>

According to Wikipedia she was born Oct 26, 1947 : she will be almost 69 years old at the time of the elections

Bernie Sanders Sept 8, 1941: 75 years old at the time of the elections

Donald Trump Jun 14, 1946: he will be 70

Ted Cruz Dec 22, 1970: he will a couple months away from getting to 46

Jeb Bush Feb 11, 1953: he will be 63



As for Presidents who got elected

Reagan was 69 when he won his first election in Oct 1980
George HW Bush was 64 when he won in 1988
Bill Clinton was 46 when he won in Oct 1992
George W Bush was 54 when he won in Oct 2000
Barack Obama was 47 wnhen he won in 2006

[PFVA]

Interesting that Michael Moore is publicly declaring his support for Bernie Sanders. And that polling of independent voters regularly puts Bernie ahead of both Trump and Clinton, especially in voters aged 18-44.

The media seems to be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy.
"Trump cannot be stopped" is rapidly turning into "Trump has maintained his unstoppable momentum". But they really need to start questioning him more.

Michael Moore would support Bernie Sanders. I would too but the US will have changed a lot if he manages to win the election in October.
In a Clinton versus Trump i think Clinton has a chance to win, but i'm not so sure if she would beat Ted Cruz. There is a lot people even within the Democrats that don't like Hillary, there was a very big campaign against her when she was First Lady. There is too a strong belief that she is very weak in terms of National Security and the fact that all those problems with Lybia happened when she was in charge of foreign affairs won't help that image

[PFVA]

I.e. it may be the last we see of Jeb Bush, and so of any Bush, in a national election. Some people’s fantasy of another Bush-Clinton matchup seems now very unlikely.

How old is this Clinton?

<Dr Who>Does she seem a bit tired? </Dr Who>

According to Wikipedia she was born Oct 26, 1947 : she will be almost 69 years old at the time of the elections

Bernie Sanders Sept 8, 1941: 75 years old at the time of the elections

Donald Trump Jun 14, 1946: he will be 70

Ted Cruz Dec 22, 1970: he will a couple months away from getting to 46

Jeb Bush Feb 11, 1953: he will be 63



As for Presidents who got elected

Reagan was 69 when he won his first election in Oct 1980
George HW Bush was 64 when he won in 1988
Bill Clinton was 46 when he won in Oct 1992
George W Bush was 54 when he won in Oct 2000
Barack Obama was 47 wnhen he won in 2006

Correction: Obama was 47 when he won in 2008 (not to 2006)

[pogo]

The thing Bernie Sanders supporters need to bear in mind though is he has had it easy so far. The rightwing press and commentators have left him alone as they do not expect him to be the candidate.

Clinton meanwhile has been subjected to unending attacks. Bengazi has been one running theme, leading to hearings which were embarrassing for all involved except her. She roundly won but they still keep raising it. Bill Clinton's infidelity is another, despite her being more a victim of it and ignoring e.g.the multiply married misogynist that is the Republican front runner. The non-issue of her e-mails.

If Sanders ends up candidate they will go after him with a vengeance, digging up his past and making stuff up. If anything it will be even worse as Sanders frightens the people bankrolling the Republican party far more than Clinton.

[(o)(o)]

Not really following the US election..

Is there a remote possibility that an actual clown will be voted prezidunt of the US of A?

[gumboot]

Bill Clinton's infidelity is another, despite her being more a victim of it and ignoring e.g.the multiply married misogynist that is the Republican front runner.

I think the issue there might be how much respect a cuckoldess (whatever those are called) has in the political world. The lack of respect is a concern I'd have with several candidates.

Of course, being named 'fart' doesn't exactly promote respect, either, but with that mouth it's the least of his concerns.

[(o)(o)]

[pogo]

Trump lost Iowa. Cruz won. In some ways this does not matter. Iowa is a small state with few candidates, and Trump still came second. He’s not like Jeb Bush or Chris Christie who must be considering when to exit the race.

The problem for Trump though is his whole schtick is that he is a winner. Vote for me and I will translate my winning business ways to a successful presidency – never mind that his business record is at best a mixed one. He needs to win and keep winning to maintain the illusion. Especially given the flawed and fragmented field. It’s not like Cruz is a good candidate. Losing is going to be hard for him to explain away.

The other winner is Rubio, who came a very good third. He is suddenly the default acceptable candidate and will quickly pick up votes from other candidates and undecided voters, and must now be the favourite, the one for both Trump and Cruz to be scared of.