Trump

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OTOH, Trump's shtick is mostly political showbiz

Well...

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There must, somewhere on the internet, be a site that catalogues comparisons with Hitler and Nazis, for every possible subject.

Or perhaps a tool like WolframAlpha could do it automatically.

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Just googheil(tm) it

[Dio]

Can I be not entirely convinced that someone whose last testament blamed everything on the Jews was just using it as a rabble-raising tool?

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I don't think I'm making a serious point here; just laughing at the similarities between claims that Trump's just clowning around and the near identical response to Hitler's hijinks nearly a century ago.

Actually tho there is a serious point here. If you get made the most powerful man on the planet by being a racist shit even if you're not a racist shit then how would that affect your future behaviour?

Rein it in or double down for a second term?

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Again: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... s-liberal/

If there's a Hitler back-catalogue that parallels the above, I've yet to see it.

It's already apparent that Trump's dialling back on the extreme rhetoric. It may have got him where he is -front and centre screen- but it's an active impediment to getting where he wants to go.

PS my insincerity-detector is blinking re the wailing from some quarters on the prospect of a Trump presidency. Not necessarily you, but from left-field of that particular ballpark where a pathological world-view trumps sanity. Breakup the west, yay! Small wonder that Vladimir the impaler is a Trump fan.

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I'm pretty aware of his past stances.

I've worked with a few pathological and highly successful entrepreneurs and a recurring pattern is if something doesn't work drop it and if does work then do it harder with little in the way of analysis about the whys and wherefores.

I'm not saying that he's Hitler just that if he's elected on the platform of being a monster there's the potential of him actually starting to walk the walk. There'll certainly be an expectation of that among a portion of those that voted for him.

Anyways. Like any election this is a propaganda war. I'm all up for comparing Trump with Hitler because I don't think Hilary on her merits is going to get a large democrat voter turnout. Look at the figures for the primaries, I think it's an all time low.

I do think that TRUMP FEAR will though

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Can somebody do a potted "what's wrong with Hilary"? I know next to nothing about her and the online stuff is all election orientated and thus massively biased.

I do know she's been a bit shifty with her e-mail and other women don't seem to like her much.

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^ misogyny, more of the same, politically dynastic, entitled, elitist, arrogant, legally dodgy... Bill.

For reasons unknown to me, she specifically fails to connect with younger women voters. In the recent Iowa caucus, 84% of women under the age of 30 voted for the 74-year-old Sanders... just 14% for Hillary. I think it was even worse in New Hampshire.

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Can somebody do a potted "what's wrong with Hilary"? I know next to nothing about her and the online stuff is all election orientated and thus massively biased.

Nothing substantial. She has an impressive track record – Senator for New York, Secretary of State – better than any other candidate. She would not have gotten so far if there was something wrong. She might be president now if Barack Obama had not decided to run.

The e-mail issue is a non-issue. She likely broke a rule by using her own server rather than a govt. supplied one for e-mail. But no harm came of it, we know this as Republicans have been digging for months trying to find harm. The other thing that comes up is Benghazi, but Republican attempts to pin the blame on her for that have fallen flat.

She is not a very inspirational figure, unlike Obama or Sanders. But maybe voters don’t want another Obama only to be disappointed when his inspirational rhetoric does nothing to change the course of government. Sanders seems to have peaked and losing support, and will find it harder to recover given the way Democratic primaries work (they are all proportional, so there’s no big winner take all states, like Florida for the Republicans, that could in theory massively change the course of the race).

But the highly negative stuff is all manufactured. It’s understandable. Republican’s don’t want another Democrat in the Oval Office, able to appoint liberal Supreme Court justices, able to veto their policies like tax cuts, repealing Obamacare.

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Can I be not entirely convinced that someone whose last testament blamed everything on the Jews was just using it as a rabble-raising tool?

If Hitler was only pretending to hate Jews then Mein Kampf would probably not descend into incoherent ranting whenever they're mentioned.

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That, and the concentration camps.

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Hmm, my passive-aggression detector is bleeping, how odd.

Good to know the prospect of a President Trump isn't actually as likely as some sensationalist sources I bumped into casually reading around the internet would lead us to believe! Were I a journalist I'd go to the proper levels of fact checking (actually most of them are bad at it too), but as it is it's just casual commentary on a forum - and sharing a few worries which I'm very glad to see refuted - it doesn't seem as important to me as it does to some others..

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Mitt Romney is sticking the boot into Trump [with gusto] on the news right now.

Which only elevates my concerns over the Cruz-er.

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That, and the concentration camps.

Well the hypothesis was that those came about as a PR exercise, wasn't it.