Trump

[gumboot]

Dick jokes.



That's where things are at, now. Dick jokes.

Thanks Trump.

[F-ZeroOne]

Why do we never hear of a "Conservative Elite"? Are only Liberals qualified to fly Cobra Mk. IIIs?

[gumboot]

There seems to be a bandwagon that could easily write Adam off as being Racist,.

Not everybody who votes for Trump is necessarily racist. Some of them are just stupid.

[PumaG]

There seems to be a bandwagon that could easily write Adam off as being Racist,.

Not everybody who votes for Trump is necessarily racist. Some of them are just stupid.

Well done for proving my point. We're on the verge of anyone not openly mocking or knocking Trump is considered racist or stupid, which is why Adam Grant's thoughts are automatically overlooked.
There are extremists and stupid people who will vote for Clinton by the tens of thousands. There is already institutional racism in the USA that was't anything to do with Trump, oh and a massive wall keeping Mexicans out.

[zip accident]

Why do we never hear of a "Conservative Elite"? Are only Liberals qualified to fly Cobra Mk. IIIs?

The intended criticism is that socialists are supposed to believe that everybody is equal, and thus that there is no elite, right wingers do believe some people are better than others, so calling them an "elite" isn't an insult to them.

[gumboot]

There seems to be a bandwagon that could easily write Adam off as being Racist,.

Not everybody who votes for Trump is necessarily racist. Some of them are just stupid.

Well done for proving my point.

Yeah. I've heard you're point plenty of times before and it really doesn't stand.

We're on the verge of anyone not openly mocking or knocking Trump is considered racist or stupid, which is why Adam Grant's thoughts are automatically overlooked.

There's no "verge" about it. We're well into out. This has always been the course of U.S. politics. It's fundamental to their us-versus-them way of seeing everything.

[tufty]

Why do we never hear of a "Conservative Elite"? Are only Liberals qualified to fly Cobra Mk. IIIs?

Because a group of conservatives is known as a "clusterfuck".

[gumboot]

I've heard you're point plenty of times before [...]

Fucking Windows Phone. Fucking useless heap of shit.

We're well into out.

Fuck.

[F-ZeroOne]

Why do we never hear of a "Conservative Elite"? Are only Liberals qualified to fly Cobra Mk. IIIs?

The intended criticism is that socialists are supposed to believe that everybody is equal, and thus that there is no elite, right wingers do believe some people are better than others, so calling them an "elite" isn't an insult to them.

That... well, it doesn't make sense, but it does at least explain it.

[Duck Turkin]

Why do we never hear of a "Conservative Elite"? Are only Liberals qualified to fly Cobra Mk. IIIs?

The intended criticism is that socialists are supposed to believe that everybody is equal, and thus that there is no elite, right wingers do believe some people are better than others, so calling them an "elite" isn't an insult to them.

That... well, it doesn't make sense, but it does at least explain it.

You're right it doesn't make sense. According to the ring-wing, Liberals/Socialists/Commies/LGBT/etc are people who are not interacting on the same level of society as everyone else. They are generally University-educated and divorced from reality, hence they have beliefs that are incompatible with 'everyday' people. Conservatives would want you to believe they are the working class people who deal with reality and whose policies reflect this. Please ignore the fact that many of the GOP are also University-educated, and many from Ivy-League schools.

Of course its a load of disingenuous horse shit, meant to divide up the people into 'real Americans' (Conservatives) and, by extension, 'fake Americans', those who vote Democrat.

[F-ZeroOne]

Oh, I long suspected why they did it - the more right-wing elements of the press in the UK often have their columnists ranting about the "Liberal Elite" as well - its just always puzzled me a bit why they think theres such a thing, and why they don't consider themselves to have an equivalent.

[PumaG]

“Godless unpatriotic pierced-nose Volvo-driving France-loving leftwing communist latte-sucking tofu-chomping holistic-wacko neurotic vegan weenie perverts.” David Grabber

"The historical defeat of the working classes has now become the UK’s export product. So people recognise that, but of course they resent it, so they take it out on the poor foreigners rather than the rich ones. Then the metropolitan elite preach tolerance, and of course they are hated; they are hated as the brokers of that system.”


the whatever 'Elite' are often criticised for being too politically correct. Just replace the word with 'creeps' for it to make more sense.

David Lammy having a go at Labour for being 'Metro Elite'
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... riah-class

"unhealthily for Labour, in my opinion. They’re too politically correct, they have an idealised view of what working people like or think is important. I often think they see working people as being concerned primarily about economic issues, so they talk about redistribution, but they forget or don’t understand the cultural aspects of working people’s lives."

[PumaG]

There seems to be a bandwagon that could easily write Adam off as being Racist,.

Not everybody who votes for Trump is necessarily racist. Some of them are just stupid.

much more complex than being stupid.

“The anti-intellectualism here is interesting. In America, there is much more of a sense that if you’re from a working-class background, you can’t really become a part of the cultural elite, hence the resentment of those guys. They hate the cultural elite much more than the economic one; you can imagine getting rich, but you know your kid is never going to be opera critic of the New York Times. Here, there is a working-class resentment of working-class people who did get ahead, which you don’t get so much in the US.”

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... riah-class

[Darkflame]

you can imagine getting rich

because they are lied to constantly and effectively.

[gumboot]

much more complex than being stupid.

Yeah, voting "fuck those guys" without regard to the consequences is even more stupid.