Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[gilesgoat]

That game that Yak is talking about with the teleport is the game that literally made me rip off the DK2 screaming !

There's NO FUCKING WAY in real life I'd go more than 6 metres away from an alien sort of cactus with moving tentacles/ondulating stuff ..

First mistake I click a button and I teleport "a bit too near" this thing is straight into my face !

Second mistake : I see some bubbles in the sea, Yak tells me "if you push a button you can fish" so I try and a robot does it for me.

The problem is I get the fish and the robot goes "LOOK the fish THING you just caught" and places this wriggling thing JUST IN FRONT OF MY FACE.

Follows the SCREAM and me ripping off the DK2 in an instant feeling shit for quite a bit.

Then there's that other demo, all pretty and nice, very good .. until "what is that thing ?" .. "You talk with an alien " .. erm ... ok ... let's watch it ..

This alien looks like "Can't you make it look even MORE UNfriendly and mean and bad meaning ?" .. gave me quite some creeps ...

Finally I go with "I don't want to see that insect thing !"

Yak : "No no it's fine it's NOT scary" ..

errrm ... ok .. let me see ..

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHR AAAAAAAAAAAAGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH !

So BEWARE of VR experiences !!

[Jamesac]

Mine is 6/20 - 6/30.

.. I don't want to be a party spoiler but remember that at the present we are working for PSVR .. ( also I am getting the impression, could be very wrong not having seen ANY of the 2 other systems yet that the PSVR is probably still 'the most visually stunning' ) ..

.. you know there will be a certain time of "Sony Exclusivity" so I am afraid after it gets out on PS4 you may have to wait "a little extra" before you'll have it on your PC ...

I was planning on getting the PS VR too, but it's looking like that may have to wait a bit. This year is becoming "financially interesting" in a good way but still leaving less room for new tech than initially planned on. Hopefully I can manage the PS VR, because I'd really love to see the new game the second it comes out.

[Bod]

Good news for a few on here who received emails recently with a shipping update ...
I too received one and it stated that mine had changed from end of March to middle of May, well I have just received 2 new emails ...

The first is a code for EVE: Valkyrie Founder's Pack!
and straight after I received a shipping notification with tracking number (UPS).

I have checked my shipping number and it has been despatched from Eindhoven, Netherlands.

I reckon (hope) I will have it safely in the house possibly by the weekend, or the start of next week though.

[Whiteball]

Good news for a few on here who received emails recently with a shipping update ...
I too received one and it stated that mine had changed from end of March to middle of May, well I have just received 2 new emails ...

The first is a code for EVE: Valkyrie Founder's Pack!
and straight after I received a shipping notification with tracking number (UPS).

I have checked my shipping number and it has been despatched from Eindhoven, Netherlands.

I reckon (hope) I will have it safely in the house possibly by the weekend, or the start of next week though.

Woohoo. Me too.
Mine says delivery Monday 18/04/2016...

[Bod]

Mine is now at Tamworth. About 3 hours drive away & UPS say it'll take 3 days before they can deliver!!
WTF?

[RiK]

[Misfit]

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=2 ... 0#p1647345

It does look good but still the last thing I want is an audience as I play VR games in my massive, preferably green screened, living room.

(Yes I know you don't need green screen or a massive room or friends)

[RiK]

It does look good but still the last thing I want is an audience as I play VR games in my massive, preferably green screened, living room.

Well the whole point, as described in the into to that video was it was set up as a demo as they couldn't think of a better way of trying to get across how immersive it was to someone who wasn't wearing the VR headset. Nobody was suggesting thats how you'd use it normally..

[Whiteball]

Mine is now at Tamworth. About 3 hours drive away & UPS say it'll take 3 days before they can deliver!!
WTF?

UPS - Universally Poor Service ?

edit:
Just checked mine and it states:
Last Location: Departed - Tamworth, United Kingdom, Friday, 04/15/2016
04/15/2016 8:57 P.M. Departure Scan

Maybe I could be lucky for Saturday morning?

[Deckard]

Didn't realise quite so few PCs could run this - seems like a bit of a big win for Sony then with 40 million ps4s that can out the box and at a fairly low price point.

Less than 1% of of the PCs expected to be in use globally in 2016 will be powerful enough to run the best virtual reality technology, graphics-chip company Nvidia has said.
It estimated just 13 million would have the required graphics capabilities in 2016, rising to 100 million by 2020.

I suppose really they're all poster boys for VR and early adopters generally aren't cost sensitive but I find it hard to see my nephews crowd (16-21) heading back to PCs from their current consoles (most have ps4s) and in all this where is the Xbox VR ?

[Barney]

But if developers are willing to drop their graphical standards to levels of just even a few years ago, then nearly everyone has a PC that can handle VR. Even switching graphical styles away from photo-realistic texturing would help enormously.

That said, I was playing Everyone's Gone To The Rapture last night and was really wishing I could experience that in VR

[Dio]

Ah but there's a double-edged sword there. One of the problems with VR is that a lot of the cheap hacks that look good on the screen look awful in VR. Bump mapping is a great example, once you get close enough it looks flat when it shouldn't. At our LiquidVR launch we showed a demo that on a monitor looked AAA class, perfect high quality modern visuals, but stick the headset on and the wet tarmac looked like gloss painted plastic if you bent down and looked at it closely.

So what you find is that even current AAA work isn't really high enough standard for VR. Hence the x1000 power we've talked about that's needed to get 'perfect' VR: 10x more resolution, 2x more framerate - but the biggest factor is that we need 50x for smarter pixels and more geometry.

Or you can work around it in the game type. We know that cockpit games work great in VR; partly that's that the motion problems go away, but also because you don't get so close to anything that you need the smarter pixels. I suspect the one other type that will immediately work great is "distant thirdperson" - the sort of viewpoint used in strategy games - because again it is a friendly type of motion and you don't get so close to the action. I think more claustrophobic environments are going to be hard to do though, unless they're pretty dark, for a few graphics generations.

[Dio]

Didn't realise quite so few PCs could run this - seems like a bit of a big win for Sony then with 40 million ps4s that can out the box and at a fairly low price point.

But at a much lower VR standard. It's three clear tiers; mobile VR, console VR, PC VR. I expect at some point a fourth will come along, maybe call it 'workstation VR' starting out at 120+fps and 4K per eye (and needing £1000 of GPU just to get started).

[Whiteball]

Not sure if I read this somewhere (maybe even on here?) or was told it. But apparently it was an official statement announced. Can't be bothered to go checking just now, but I guess something this 'big' would be easy enough to corroborate.

The Playstation VR headset is going to be made available to and work on the PC.

[Barney]

And of course, we're still making games that push even high-end PC hardware to its limits and developers (not to mention users!) won't be happy if they can't have the same standard in VR.

Standards for VR games have to drop, for both devs and users.