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Clinton and Trump won last night. For Clinton is was just confirmation she is on track to win. Sanders run of states has come to an end. More importantly she is winning the big states and winning well, improving her lead each time she does.

Trump’s strong showing was less expected. He was always expected to do well but he did much better than expected, claiming more of the vote than before and almost all of the delegates. It now looks much more likely he will have enough delegates to win on the first round at the convention, if he is able to repeat this performance in the remaining states.
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Trumps declaring himself THE WINNER PRESUMPTIVE now.

He's kind of right, the nomination is pretty much his to lose. Just needs a steady pair of hands from here to the convention and he's in!

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gravy wrote:Trumps declaring himself THE WINNER PRESUMPTIVE now.

He's kind of right, the nomination is pretty much his to lose. Just needs a steady pair of hands from here to the convention and he's in!

Oh...
It's Ok, because Hillary is only winning due to the support of Women!

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This is a long review of an even longer book. It does get around to Trumpism towards the end. It's interesting.

It raises the same issues about America as occurred to me about Britain after watching the recent TV documentary The Celts.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/27/bo ... ions-seed/
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Barney wrote:
gravy wrote:Trumps declaring himself THE WINNER PRESUMPTIVE now.

He's kind of right, the nomination is pretty much his to lose. Just needs a steady pair of hands from here to the convention and he's in!

Oh...
It's Ok, because Hillary is only winning due to the support of Women!

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LOL yes. This is him supposedly starting to focus on the election in November, and how does he start? With a ridiculous statement based on his presumptive opponent’s gender. He might as well say she is winning due to the support of voters, as the majority of them are women.

In some ways it’s understandable as he does not have any answers to her platform. He probably isn’t even aware of her platform, he barely has a coherent one of his own. And he has quite purposely avoided recruiting anyone to advise him and prepare him for what’s next.

Also now the primaries look largely settled thoughts (of pundits at least) are turning towards the choice of Vice President. This is probably relatively straightforward for Clinton, who has a lot of support within the democrats and should be able find someone to complement her in a number of ways. My early vote goes for Elizabeth Warren.

Trump though will find it much harder. It will be a rare person who wants the job, who can support Trump’s batshit insane platform, get on with the man himself, and resign themselves to a probable humiliating loss in November. Anyone crazy enough is unlikely to be an asset for Trump.
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Sarah Palin?
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pogo wrote: And he has quite purposely avoided recruiting anyone to advise him and prepare him for what’s next.
If anyone is employed to advise Trump I dare say they wouldn't want to make their involvement widely known.
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Yes, Cruz has chosen Fiorina for VP. Isn’t this a little early and presumptive ? Yes and yes. Normally you only need a VP for the main contest, and choosing one now is highly unorthodox, especially when your chances of being the candidate are slimming by the state. In theory she is a good pick for November, being a woman so helping with women voters.

But it’s not as if there’s a shortage of good women he could choose, if he were candidate. Fiorina is still the failed businesswoman outsider she was when she flopped months ago. As such though she is a lot like Trump. In fact she is very close to him politically, apart from being a woman and not appearing insane. So the whole point of doing this early is to attract Trump supporters. Will it work? I doubt it very much.
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venusian wrote:This is a long review of an even longer book. It does get around to Trumpism towards the end. It's interesting.

It raises the same issues about America as occurred to me about Britain after watching the recent TV documentary The Celts.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/04/27/bo ... ions-seed/
Thanks for posting that, I found it interesting and entertaining.

...and the British responsible for this mess. :wink:
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I'd say that this is getting ridiculous, but, you know. Trump gave a speech, finally, outlining his foreign policy in terms of more than "cut the head off ISIS". It was not encouraging.

The Guardian has a good list of random inconsistencies in the speech. (And this may be old news to you lot, but this continental got a good chuckle out of the fact that grauniad.co.uk works just fine.) Also, Vox's teardown has it pegged: for a prepared speech, this was just scarily clueless. Outrageous. Tremendous?
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I thought maybe waterboarding and killing family members might be a domestic policy. No need to mention it in a foreign policy speech in that case.
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funkstar wrote:I'd say that this is getting ridiculous, but, you know. Trump gave a speech, finally, outlining his foreign policy in terms of more than "cut the head off ISIS". It was not encouraging.

The Guardian has a good list of random inconsistencies in the speech. (And this may be old news to you lot, but this continental got a good chuckle out of the fact that grauniad.co.uk works just fine.) Also, Vox's teardown has it pegged: for a prepared speech, this was just scarily clueless. Outrageous. Tremendous?
ehh? what world are you posting from?
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Nice critique man
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gravy wrote:Nice critique man
it was either that or you claim "here we go again"


you know full well I want the context of US foreign policy in which a poster here finds 'Trump scary and clueless..'

Illegal Iraq wars that half the world protested against and warned what did happen would happen (not to mention polls showing very little citizen support in *any* country)

millions of refugees displaced

100,000s innocents killed in reckless assaults as not to lose votes with own losses

Dodgy arms deals

Dodgy deals with Saudi and Israel

re-arming of Al Qaida

Keeping things with Russia frosty to reverse military spending cuts

this list goes on and on


How is none of this scary and clueless?

War is THE business of the USA,over 40% of the world's arms trade (the biggest trade on this planet) but Trump is somehow making people scared. Pathetic, sheltered wimps. Probably got someone to hold your hands whilst voting for Bush and Blair (far far scarier than trump, Obama is hardly a saint admitting he didn't know what he was doing in Libya) So theres 3 clueless pricks to provide context.

Trump can talk about sending the Teletubbies to the middle east for all the difference it would make. The yanks want at least Russia's share of the arms trade and are prepared to make things happen, now that's scary.
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Read either of the linked articles. Trumps speech was full of inconsistencies and easily checked errors. His actual policies were incoherent and lacking any sense or overall theme.

The problem is this was supposed to be his big foreign policy speech. Not only that but he used teleprompters; he could not blame errors in remembering it or off the cuff remarks (not that those are good excuses anyway).
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