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Agreed. Gender is only going to reinforce a few people already with their minds made up.
pogo wrote:She has no real power now.
See article. Essentially she has significant influence in fund raising, amongst other things.
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pogo wrote:Essentially women haters already have reason enough not to vote for Clinton.
Good point. The women haters aren't ever going to be convinced anyway, so you might as well double down on the bet and gain the satisfaction that you're really, really pissing them off. :wink:
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I'm pretty convinced Obama is just trolling the Republicans on his way out now, hes just announced an end to a five-decades long ban on US arms sales...

...to Vietnam.
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That's because of China even if they say it's not.
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21 Questions For Donald Trump

They highlight that any close examination of his business record shows a long and varied record of failure – bankruptcies, losses, dubious and illegal practices, fraud, deals with the mob and crooks. For someone running on his record it is an appalling record.
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pogo wrote:21 Questions For Donald Trump

They highlight that any close examination of his business record shows a long and varied record of failure – bankruptcies, losses, dubious and illegal practices, fraud, deals with the mob and crooks. For someone running on his record it is an appalling record.

I dare someone to put this in to context with other failed business goings on, or state categorically Trump's selfish money generating practices are unique. He's been widely mocked for failing in the Casino business, yet at least he pulled out and never when back in. Both the US and UK have no backbones when it comes to banning successive failures. They allow it to be a career option.

Prior to running, he should have entered the arms business with the untouchables.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:I'm pretty convinced Obama is just trolling the Republicans on his way out now, hes just announced an end to a five-decades long ban on US arms sales...

...to Vietnam.
How can they afford anything? They're behind Ireland, Portugal and Peru in GDP. Or shouldn't I ask....
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PumaG wrote:
F-ZeroOne wrote:I'm pretty convinced Obama is just trolling the Republicans on his way out now, hes just announced an end to a five-decades long ban on US arms sales...

...to Vietnam.
How can they afford anything? They're behind Ireland, Portugal and Peru in GDP. Or shouldn't I ask....
Without having looked at all, maybe they're not up to their ears in debt?
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PumaG wrote:
pogo wrote:21 Questions For Donald Trump

They highlight that any close examination of his business record shows a long and varied record of failure – bankruptcies, losses, dubious and illegal practices, fraud, deals with the mob and crooks. For someone running on his record it is an appalling record.

I dare someone to put this in to context with other failed business goings on, or state categorically Trump's selfish money generating practices are unique. He's been widely mocked for failing in the Casino business, yet at least he pulled out and never when back in. Both the US and UK have no backbones when it comes to banning successive failures. They allow it to be a career option.

Prior to running, he should have entered the arms business with the untouchables.
Which is possibly missing the point - his business practices probably aren't unique, but one of his platforms for his presidential campaign is his alleged "business acumen".
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PFVA wrote:That's because of China even if they say it's not.
True. Probably also a bit o fa shot at the Russians too.

From Wikipedia:

"Since 2015, Vietnam has start to exploring American and European weapons although facing numerous political, historical and financial barriers, as they cannot continue to relied with Soviet and Chinese weapons especially due to continuous China's aggression in the South China Sea dispute."

Their air force appears to operate a number of reasonably advanced Russian fighter aircraft.
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PumaG wrote:I dare someone to put this in to context with other failed business goings on, or state categorically Trump's selfish money generating practices are unique. He's been widely mocked for failing in the Casino business, yet at least he pulled out and never when back in. Both the US and UK have no backbones when it comes to banning successive failures. They allow it to be a career option.
Yes and no. Capitalism tends to be very tolerant of bankruptcy. But it is hardly a career option, it still involves financial ruin. The US in particular makes it far too easy for individuals to escape ruin, even when they were the cause of it. Trump’s multiple bankruptcies have been of his businesses, the ones he runs and attaches his name to, often physically. But he has been able to shield himself from taking responsibility, letting others pay the price.

And anyway, even if bankruptcy is a normal part of capitalism, it is not a good model for government. It’s fine for spoiled rich kids to blow their inheritance on amateurish property investments, as Trump did. But it is poor preparation for being in charge of a country like the US.
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Indeed. "Great at making money" isn't a selling point for a president, regardless of truth.
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pogo wrote:21 Questions For Donald Trump

They highlight that any close examination of his business record shows a long and varied record of failure – bankruptcies, losses, dubious and illegal practices, fraud, deals with the mob and crooks. For someone running on his record it is an appalling record.

I dare someone to put this in to context with other failed business goings on, or state categorically Trump's selfish money generating practices are unique.
Of course its not unique.
But other people arnt running for president on a "Look I am a great businessman" platform.
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Associated Press claiming Trump has enough delegates for the nomination.

But that does not mean it will be a straightforward coronation.

If the violence at Trump rallies continues, there will be tough questions for senior Republicans as to whether he can go forward.
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merman wrote:Associated Press claiming Trump has enough delegates for the nomination.

But that does not mean it will be a straightforward coronation.

If the violence at Trump rallies continues, there will be tough questions for senior Republicans as to whether he can go forward.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll do anything and everything in their power to try and knock him down and keep him out. We live in a world where even reaching the required quota to become president isn't enough anymore because if certain people dislike you (in this case, most of the world) you still can't win. Which kind of questions how does it all add up if that's truly the case.

Really, it's no different than it has been in the past. Changing the rules at the last minute is nothing new, is it?
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Darkflame wrote:Indeed. "Great at making money" isn't a selling point for a president, regardless of truth.
The fact that he's managed to fuck so many people who were dumb enough to get involved with him suggests that there's a ready supply of shitheads. If there are enough of them to get the whole country involved with him in the same way, perhaps that legitimises his business practices?
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