Trump

[pogo]

And it's also why she should lose... pronouncing Moscow like that. Fuck you Clinton, and fuck you America.

I didn’t notice, and if I didn’t I doubt American voters many of whom could not find Russia on a map will. And if you are looking for examples of butchering the English language you need look no further than the subject of this thread.

[TFO]

Good job he's not talking about flying 'over China' then...

[PFVA]

Somehow it still seems that that might be too abstract for Trump supporters to make a clear connection to the reality of the situation.

Even that What's the Deal documentary really doesn't say things in terms that shout "raging maniac fraudster!" in terms I imagine being comprehensible to a Trumper.

I'm not sure if there's anything in the world that could get through to them.

So if the US really does end up with a Trump for a president, what recourse does it have to salvage the situation without having to wait four years?

If he acts as nuts as president as he is doing in the campaign probably Impeachment.

It seems there was some trouble not far fm you between his supporters and thoose who don't like him today. Not exactly a surprise as San José as one of the highest percentages of Mexicans or their descendents in California.

[Darkflame]

Interview where he is questioned on why he thinks he cant be Judged by someone of Latino heritage.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/ ... of-racism/

Trump doesn't give any answers. He is basically going "la la la" over the whole thing.

He also invokes unnamed lawyers coming upto him and telling him how unfairly poor Trump has been treated. Presumably the same unnamed Lawyers he claimed found stuff about Obamas birth certificate. ("you wouldn't believe what they have found" - odd how his supporters now want to forgot about these claims.)

According to Maria Chavez survey, 46% of Latino Lawyers have experienced racism in their profession before Trump showed his ugly face, so who was failing them all this time? (and it's a hell of a long time)
So before thinking attacking Trump is the cure, what professionals and politicians will stand up and take responsibility for this?
America eh..

Can you point to anyone that has blamed the whole of racism on Trump?

To use your own metaphor, Trump is more poison. Calling someone out for being poison is not, in itself, a attempt at a cure - its a attempt to stop things getting worse.

[merman]

What's the legal position on Trump visiting the UK? Does his hate speech have to be performed within the UK to warrant an arrest?

We'll find out soon. His Royal Trumpness is visiting the UK on the 22nd of June, the day before the EU referendum...

So you read the Guardian then? The others are reporting it's the day after (to open a new Golf course, it creates a few jobs and all that..)

So will those Asian Labour and SNP MPs take him for a Curry and show him the success story of weak borders, like they promised in the .gov petition debate?

No, it was posted elsewhere after Trumpy trumpeted it on Twitter...

http://www.thenational.scot/news/donald ... vote.18402

[PumaG]

Interview where he is questioned on why he thinks he cant be Judged by someone of Latino heritage.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/ ... of-racism/

Trump doesn't give any answers. He is basically going "la la la" over the whole thing.

He also invokes unnamed lawyers coming upto him and telling him how unfairly poor Trump has been treated. Presumably the same unnamed Lawyers he claimed found stuff about Obamas birth certificate. ("you wouldn't believe what they have found" - odd how his supporters now want to forgot about these claims.)

According to Maria Chavez survey, 46% of Latino Lawyers have experienced racism in their profession before Trump showed his ugly face, so who was failing them all this time? (and it's a hell of a long time)
So before thinking attacking Trump is the cure, what professionals and politicians will stand up and take responsibility for this?
America eh..

Can you point to anyone that has blamed the whole of racism on Trump?

To use your own metaphor, Trump is more poison. Calling someone out for being poison is not, in itself, a attempt at a cure - its a attempt to stop things getting worse.

Ok. Nice of you to admit that you/they are trying to bring him down to stop the 46% getting any worse, but what were you doing before that? as 46% isn't and never was acceptable

Nor sure how you think I implied people were blaming Trump for all racism. I've said here before it's extremely complex. Tens of millions of Americans are still mourning slavery and the Holocaust, at the same time as allowing both to happen elsewhere.
I note that a measly couple of hundred Canadians tried to take direct action by writing to their foreign affairs MP to have something done over Rwanda. iirc they don't even need a stamp on the letter,.

Trump will be gone soon, get your best writing paper out. MPs wont read this thread.

I would have more respect for people attacking Trump if they were under the impression he was the main cause of American racism all this time. Then there are those who think he's going to have access to 'The Nuke button' and start WW3. America should by now be in a position of not being able to start a war with anyone, but that has never been a priority except for a couple of hundred hippies.

[pogo]

Here’s the interview where Trump elaborates on his views on the judge in his case. It’s a very good inteview: the interviewer Jake Tapper is not rattled by Trump’s bluster and bullshit, calls him on his racism and effectively gets him to confirm it.

What’s most amazing is this is all self-inflicited. No-one was talking about the case before Trump decided to spend 12 minutes discussing it in San Diego. And even then it would not be news, except for the racist slur he used against the judge. Since when instead of doing damage limitation he has doubled down, essentially firming up his theory so no-one can be in any doubt that it is racist.

[gumboot]

I would have more respect for people attacking Trump if they were under the impression he was the main cause of American racism all this time.

He's not the cause of American racism, but he is a cock, and that's sufficient.

Letting him be president would be a partial legitimation of a lot of awful characteristics.

[pogo]

He is a racist, there is no doubt about that. Not only his decision to slander a judge based on the judge’s assumed race. There’s the way he speaks about in particular blacks at his rallies. There’s his hiring policy of hiring almost an entirely white and male staff, despite being based in New York, one of the most diverse cities in America. And forty years ago he was taken to court by the Justice Dept, for discriminating against blacks in letting out apartments.

I.e. it’s just this, or just the odd statement. It’s a pattern of behaviour going back decades, culminating in his racist policy platform.

The good thing is most Americans aren’t like that. Even among whites the number of overt racists is quite small. Most right minded Americans will sooner or later realise he is a talentless, racist buffoon and not vote for him.

[funkstar]

Here’s the interview where Trump elaborates on his views on the judge in his case. It’s a very good inteview: the interviewer Jake Tapper is not rattled by Trump’s bluster and bullshit, calls him on his racism and effectively gets him to confirm it.

That's a beautiful clusterfuck of Trumpisms. I just wonder how he got millions of Republicans to drink his so-very-poisoned Kool-aid: are they really that fucking stupid? I guess they are, but the man speaks like a ten-year old and behaves worse.

[F-ZeroOne]

Theres now a report going round that women on Trumps campaign are paid one third less then men. The reports behind a paywall, unfortunately.

[Darkflame]

Side issue. But imho, it should not be legal to make people sign non-pay disclosure agreements.
Pretty much the definition of anti-competitive behavior in the job market yet its become the default.

[Darkflame]

(-sigh- another double post. Sorry for making this forum a mess at times. Its da-clicks. My mouse double clicks rather then single when I hit submit I think)

[zip accident]

I dunno if this link will change tomorrow, if it does, this day is June the fifth 2016, and the website is as follows and has a jump to date function.

http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane?ref=comics

It seems to me that Trump is the rabid dog in this joke, and that people are preferring him to politicians, which is a mistake.

[PumaG]

He is a racist, there is no doubt about that. There’s his hiring policy of hiring almost an entirely white and male staff, despite being based in New York, one of the most diverse cities in America. And forty years ago he was taken to court by the Justice Dept, for discriminating against blacks in letting out apartments.

I.e. it’s just this, or just the odd statement. It’s a pattern of behaviour going back decades, culminating in his racist policy platform.

A pattern or PATTON ?

Lynne Patton Vice president of the Trump foundation and senior assistant to the Trump family (a Black lady)
https://www.erictrumpfoundation.com/boa ... -m.-patton


more than one third Women in the Executive committee
https://www.erictrumpfoundation.com/executive-committee


EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, PAIGE SCARDIGLI
https://www.erictrumpfoundation.com/executive-director

and 11 of the 12 Event Committee are Women
https://www.erictrumpfoundation.com/event-committee


He hates children too right?