Trump

[funkstar]

PumaG, I suppose that letting the charity of the son pass to the father is a fitting contrapositive of letting the sins of the father pass to the son. On the other hand, the ideas of the bronze age Levant are a bit antiquated to my tastes, and also silly, so, no, let's not do that, hm?

[pogo]

A pattern:

Here Are 10 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

in particular

discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career

Workers at Trump’s casinos in Atlantic City, New Jersey, have accused him of racism over the years. The New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino $200,000 in 1992 because managers would remove African-American card dealers at the request of a certain big-spending gambler. A state appeals court upheld the fine.

The first-person account of at least one black Trump casino employee in Atlantic City suggests the racist practices were consistent with Trump’s personal behavior toward black workers.

“When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, told the New Yorker for a September article. “It was the eighties, I was a teen-ager, but I remember it: they put us all in the back.”

Trump disparaged his black casino employees as “lazy” in vividly bigoted terms, according to a 1991 book by John O’Donnell, a former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.

“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee, according to O’Donnell. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

Trump has also faced charges of reneging on commitments to hire black people. In 1996, 20 African Americans in Indiana sued Trump for failing to honor a promise to hire mostly minority workers for a riverboat casino on Lake Michigan.

It’s notable the above is all about employment. The most recent example I was thinking of was a report that his current staff in New York is almost entirely white, in one of the most diverse cities in America, but I cannot now find that report.

[PumaG]

The good thing is most Americans aren’t like that. Even among whites the number of overt racists is quite small. Most right minded Americans will sooner or later realise he is a talentless, racist buffoon and not vote for him.

Hillary is going to get 94% of the vote

[PumaG]

“The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

Intersting fact, guys wearing Yarmulkes regularly approach drivers on the Eurotunnel with empty trailers, asking if they want to make some 'extra money'. It crossed my mind too that this was a waste of resource, especially with Romanians penchant for cheap UK regd BMWs, but don't have it in me to walk around asking. Naturally this is not something I could talk about outside your quote, or I'd be racist for even observing it the fact. (Im in a high car with bikes on top regularly so get to observe quite a lot of goings on with foreigners in the bus cartridges, mostly Poles, OIY OIY steady on!

The most recent example I was thinking of was a report that his current staff in New York is almost entirely white, in one of the most diverse cities in America, but I cannot now find that report.

The managemnet he instructed to throw Black people's CVs in the bin will go to jail when this gets out (and it will get out sooner or later, you cant cover up these orders in large companies) , along with Trump. Watch this space.

Although personally I'll wait for the trial before waving the guilty finger. I've worked for several mid to large UK companies who could have easily been accused of similar, oh and they weren't owned by Trump,. and one of those was in Luton.
African Americans make up 25% of New Yorks pop, and Asians 30% of Luton. We were pretty much arm twisted into employing a guy who turned out to be Muslim, he lasted 6 months because he wouldn't pull his weight or at least let us carry him like we often had to and indeed I had been in the past. He sued for unfair dismissal because he'd apparently seen some young lads messing about regarding anal sex ironically we had a couple of legit gay lads on the help desk a couple of years later who were way too open for my tastes, the women cracked up though.
This was an office btw that took issue with women having too longer fag breaks (on around 30k a year same as men) yet nobody batted an eyelid at him going off for prayers. IIRC there was some kind of law in the UK forcing companies to employ the same percentage of minorities as in the local community. I had no idea Luton was so high at the time, or indeed until I just looked it up. I can guarantee you 30% of Asians weren't applying for jobs, oh and some irony this guy wasn't even from Luton.

Isn't life complex

Oh and the Bedfordshire Police have 3.3% Asian officers, the fucking racist pig filth eh (not owned by Trump either though) oink

[PumaG]

Here Are 10 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

"Trump often answers accusations of bigotry by loudly protesting that he actually loves the group in question. But that’s just as uncomfortable to hear, because he’s still treating all the members of the group — all the individual human beings — as essentially the same"

Yesterday, the Liberals wanted everyone to be treated the same. Today, you're racist if you don't treat groups as individuals. Tomorrow, everyone should be treated the same.

Fairplay to the excellent Liberal comedian Richard Herring for bringing this up.

"Not long before he called for a blanket ban on Muslims entering the country, Trump was proclaiming his affection for “the Muslims,” disagreeing with rival candidate Ben Carson’s claim in September that being a Muslim should disqualify someone from running for president"

Daily Mail esque out of context

"At a November campaign rally in Alabama, Trump supporters physically attacked an African-American protester after the man began chanting “Black lives matter.”

Ditto Black Trump supporter giving a White Black lives matter protester a right beating, ssshhhhhh

"in 1973"

"in 1992"

"according to a 1991 book"

"in 1993"

"a news report from 1927"

[pogo]

It came up in the Jake Tapper interview, Trump saying “I’ll do great with the Hispanics”. At the same time as doubling down on a racist slur which, by singling out an American with a Hispanic background for condemnation purely on the basis of his background, Trump was in effect saying all American Hispanics cannot be trusted to be fair.

So does he try and repair the damage over the weekend? Nope:

Trump: It's 'Possible' A Muslim Judge Would Be Biased Against Me Too

CBS host John Dickerson asked Trump if he thought he wouldn't be able to be treated fairly by a Muslim judge.

"It's possible, yes. Yeah," Trump replied. "That would be possible, absolutely."

"He is a member of a club or society, very strongly pro-Mexican, which is all fine. but I say he's got bias. I want to build a wall," Trump said, referring to the wall he wants to build between the U.S. and Mexico.

CBS host John Dickerson asked Trump if he believed in what Dickerson called an American tradition of not judging people based on their families.

"I'm not talking about tradition--I'm talking about common sense, okay?" Trump replied.

So much raw material ! So now he also includes Muslims. But it’s worth highlighting his argument, “...I say he's got bias. I want to build a wall”, which is pure gibberish, the sort of argument you expect from a five year old. As for the “American tradition”, there’s another way of describing it: it’s the definition of racism, not judging people based on their family background. And Trump does not respect this “tradition”, he prefers to keep being racist, based on his “common sense”.

[PumaG]

FYI Pogo, I hardly pay any attention to Trump outside of this thread so you don't need to work so hard. I picture you holding a placard now
Im fed up with the shitty American election and even more so the hypocritical reactions and fear mongering to it, then seeing the utter political bollocks from the control freaks unfold again on the Brexit referendum.

as it happens though. Im perversely looking forward to a Hillary thread on 1 24, 2017 'so help me god' so we can discuss the outcome of her pulling down the Mexican wall, disbanding the strict Visa rules for overseas would-be migrants and making it legal to migrate across America's border. There's business (legal) I could do there if it becomes the free fair world for all, Im banking money tomorrow for the flight.

[pogo]

Don’t worry, this is not only or even mostly for your benefit. US politics is usually much more entertaining than ours and this year they’ve come up trumps (sorry). So many highlights I have to share. Such as this that highlights yet another way he is totally unsuited for public office.

[pogo]

as it happens though. Im perversely looking forward to a Hillary thread on 1 24, 2017 'so help me god' so we can discuss the outcome of her pulling down the Mexican wall, disbanding the strict Visa rules for overseas would-be migrants and making it legal to migrate across America's border. There's business (legal) I could do there if it becomes the free fair world for all, Im banking money tomorrow for the flight.

It is going to be interesting to see how she does. It would be unprecedented in many ways. First woman, of course. But first Democrat following a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson. First time Democrats have held the presidency for three terms/12 years since WWII.

She will get the chance to transform US politics. The Supreme Court will have a liberal majority for the first time in decades, so will no longer act as a roadblock on liberal/Democratic policies. She might have Democratic majorities in the House and Senate, if Trump damages the Republican brand enough. Even if not the Republican party might be much willing to cooperate after nearly destroying the party with a destructive, uncooperative approach.

[Neon360]

I guess everyone should have seen the day coming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=sh ... pp=desktop

[Darkflame]

She will get the chance to transform US politics. The Supreme Court will have a liberal majority for the first time in decades

Assuming America ever gets a new supreme court judge. They literally made up a rule to stop one being nominated right now, they could just as easily do the same post-election.

[pogo]

She will get the chance to transform US politics. The Supreme Court will have a liberal majority for the first time in decades

Assuming America ever gets a new supreme court judge. They literally made up a rule to stop one being nominated right now, they could just as easily do the same post-election.

Stalling for a few months is one thing. For five years ? No way. They may even be in a hurry after November to confirm Obama’s nomination, before Clinton becomes President and nominates someone younger and more liberal.

Plus there is a good chance the Senate will be majority Democrat after November. The Democrats only need to win four seats, by a quirk of the calendar most of the seats being contested are Republican held, and Trump could be a decisive factor helping Democrat candidates in many of them.

[zip accident]

The worst sequence of events that is even remotely likely to happen is brexit, followed by Trump being elected, he reveals himself an American Hitler and withdraws from NATO, then Russia conquers Europe.

From there, things begin looking up.

[Rubisco]

Gandhi was a fucking racist too, and he didn't turn into Hitler.

So was Churchill, did he become the British Hitler or did he lead the fight against him?

[KlaxonCow]

So, before there was Hitler, what did people use to predict the worst case scenario?

Or, to put it another way, there's a failure of imagination, really, when people predict "another Hitler".

Before there was Hitler, no-one was predicting Hitler nor how anyone could be that catastrophic for the world. So now, before "the Coming Disaster", we're all failing miserably to predict just how disastrous "the Coming Disaster" is really going to be.

Or, to put it yet another way, perhaps Trump won't be "another Hitler" but will rather be "the first Trump" and, thereafter, when things are going horribly wrong, it'll be predictions of "another Trump" instead and folks will barely remember who Hitler even was, in comparison to the genocidal wastelands that he'll unleash upon the planet.

Maybe. Most probably not, in all honesty. But maybe, just maybe.