Trump

[F-ZeroOne]

I bet Pepsi and 7-11 must love having their logos sitting right next to Hitler in his full red, white and black glory there.

Also, what the fuck is a "techno bar and cocktail show" when it's at home, and why would Hitler be the perfect avatar for its promotion anyway?

There have been various examples of Hitler-cluelesness in non-Western countries from time-to-time; hell, a girl idol band in Japan (I think) even got into trouble a couple of years back for dressing up like Nazis and - as big a Gundam fan as I am - there has been a trend in more recent series for the "bad" guys (either the Republic of Zeon, or its suspiciously similar substitute in various alternate dimension spin-offs) to be portrayed in a rather sympathetic manner, which probably reached its nadir in "Gundam: IGLOO" with this guy:



Note that in the original "Gundam" series, the parallels were a touch more subtle.

Also, as the swastika has long been a religious symbol in certain parts of Asia, its possible some may only wonder why the hell they've put it up the wrong way round...

[gumboot]

A percentage is only representative of those who voted. When there is only one candidate, it's possible only supporters of that candidate bother casting votes.

Oh, I forgot about that. 'Didn't bother' isn't on the list and for some reason I was thinking it was.

And what's the point in voting against Trump? Republican supporters are Republican supporters - they aren't about to quit in disgust to become Democrats that vote for Hillary in the election.

It's still primaries so if you vote against Trump, for a candidate who isn't actually running, then you make the outcome (inevitable though it is) a little less disgraceful for the party by showing how many Republicans don't want Trump.

But only a few people have bothered to do this. And when it could have made a difference (when they were under the most pressure to vote) they could rarely muster 50% between them. From this we can infer that the majority of Repuiblicans feel that a raging shithead is their best representation.

I don't know what would happen if somebody other than Trump won a state at this stage. I guess nothing.

[Little stoned kiwi]

It's still primaries so if you vote against Trump, for a candidate who isn't actually running, then you make the outcome (inevitable though it is) a little less disgraceful for the party by showing how many Republicans don't want Trump.

Voting against Trump wouldn't be less disgraceful though. It would be shameful for Republicans to say they don't want the Republican candidate and damaging to the Republican cause.
Come the election they will vote Republican and encourage others to do the same, even though that means Trump. Probably by saying their turd-sandwich will be less worse than the Democrat's giant-douche. Both candidates represent a subset of each party which are subsets of the population - yet one of these minorities of minorities is going to be elected to represent the majority.

[Darkflame]

They save face by rejecting Trump on the grounds he isn't conservative.
Hell, on some days in the month thats even true.

[Darkflame]

They save face by rejecting Trump on the grounds he isn't conservative.
Hell, on some days in the month thats even true.

[gumboot]

Voting against Trump wouldn't be less disgraceful though. It would be shameful for Republicans to say they don't want the Republican candidate and damaging to the Republican cause.

Well that really depends on how you feel about Trump. I'm pretty sure his presidency would be more damaging to the Republican cause than would all Republicans simply walking out and declaring this a Democrat victory by default.

Presenting some kind of unified front is by no means the best and most important thing that a party supporter could do for their party.

[SuperMappy]

As an American, I can sum up my feelings about the election in one sentence.

I'll be happy when all this bullshit is over!

Also someone, I wish I could remember who, put it quite succinctly when they said; "Choosing between Trump or Hillary is like choosing to be shot through the front of the head or the back."

[noodles]

I would have thought Stalin would be a more appropriate mascot for an ice cream brand ... "Ice Cream so cool you'll die!"

[pogo]

Well that really depends on how you feel about Trump. I'm pretty sure his presidency would be more damaging to the Republican cause than would all Republicans simply walking out and declaring this a Democrat victory by default.

Presenting some kind of unified front is by no means the best and most important thing that a party supporter could do for their party.

Republicans have no really good options now. Endorse Trump and they face not only tying themselves to a loser but associating themselves with every nasty, prejudiced, hateful comment he comes up with. But if they don’t support him they split the party, and maybe make his and their loss in November even worse.

This is all of their own making though. They deliberately went after social conservative ("Tea Party") voters for their votes, devising issues and policies that would appeal to them, such as pro gun rights, against abortion, against LBGT rights. Then, once elected, they went to Washington and did nothing for their constituents, instead focussing on tax cuts for billionaires and military misadventures. And now those voters are angry, not just with Democrats but with elected Republicans. Hence their support for political outsiders like Trump. Trump has proved awfully good at channelling that anger, and establishment Republicans have had no answer.

Republicans can’t just go back to how things were before Trump. Down that route lies more losses and more candidates like Trump. They need to find new policies that engage with more than just the Tea Party, to get back middle class, non-white and women voters that have deserted them. And they need to become an effective party of government again, not just one of obstruction and gesture politics.

[pogo]

Meryl Streep as Donald Trump:

[F-ZeroOne]

I would have thought Stalin would be a more appropriate mascot for an ice cream brand ... "Ice Cream so cool you'll die!"

Well...

[F-ZeroOne]

Trumps elegant reply from twitter:

"Pocahontas is at it again! Goofy Elizabeth Warren, one of the least productive U.S. Senators, has a nasty mouth. Hope she is V.P. choice."

Can someone more familiar with US politics please explain the "Pocahontas" thing, which I've seen reported as an ethnic slur (I know the historical character it refers to, obviously, I'm just unclear as to how it may apply to Warren)?

[Darkflame]

How does Trump define "productive" anyway?

[Darkflame]

How does Trump define "productive" anyway?

[F-ZeroOne]

Most amount of failed business ventures with the word "Trump" attached to them?

Also, I now understand a bit more about the reference, apparently Warren has claimed - and supposedly got into trouble over the claims - Cherokee ancestry. Thinking more on it, its surprising that Mr. Trump believes that a reference to a famous female Native American is an insult. For a given value of "surprising".