Trump

[Little stoned kiwi]

With both of gun control and LGBT issues coming to the fore, it's important to quickly blame foreigners and shut that shit down before it becomes an uncomfortable election issue.

[Mayhem]

And just to prove even more laws are an ass, because the LGBT community are banned from donating blood in Florida, then the Muslim community are pulling together and doing it instead in light of the need post shootings...

[zip accident]

Born there, but an islamist, whose moderate islamist parent (s?) deny that it was religiously motivated. I admit to being confused.

http://amultiverse.com/

[PumaG]

Born there, but an islamist, whose moderate islamist parent (s?) deny that it was religiously motivated. I admit to being confused.

The shooter's father has said that 'god should punish gays' not his son.

Photos have emerged of the old man dressed in Camos with the Afghan flag, saying he wants to run for president of that country.

I imagine this is what Trump was on about when he uttered the racist sentence ending 'until we can figure out what's going on'

[PumaG]

All Americans don't forget.

[PumaG]

So Hillary shoots a barb at Trump post the shootings:

In an implicit rebuke to Donald Trump she said: 'This is a time for statesmanship; for Republicans and Democrats and Independents to come together. We have to remember how we came together after 9/11 and we should recapture that."

She said Trump's rhetoric is 'quite dangerous to our country'.

A couple of post 9/11 comments. I seem to remember much stronger ones.

“Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward and freedom will be defended... We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.” –George W. Bush

“This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today. It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly indifferent to the sanctity of human life, and we the democracies of this world are going to have to come together and fight it together.” –Tony Blair

They failed their countries, but they've certainly done alright for themselves.

[merman]

Donald Trump.

Backed and funded by the NRA.

[phattslagg]

I don't wish to be rude, but I honestly can't say I've understood the point behind a single one of PumaG's contributions to this thread. I mean, Pogo's posts in the Politics thread are almost entirely composed of "things I don't agree with" (to put it politely) but at least I understand what he's trying to say. Am I alone on this?

[PumaG]

I don't wish to be rude, but I honestly can't say I've understood the point behind a single one of PumaG's contributions to this thread. I mean, Pogo's posts in the Politics thread are almost entirely composed of "things I don't agree with" (to put it politely) but at least I understand what he's trying to say. Am I alone on this?

So you think Trump receiving an endorsement from the NRA, is the same as Merman above claiming they are funding him? Says it all really. The Politicians love your type.

Dont mean to be rude, but if you and other blinkered people understood my points I'd be offended.

Was it bothering you that you might be alone?

I've simply countered a thread designed to laugh and point at Trump and blame the worlds problems on him, by showing what a mess America makes of things without Trump's help.
They let Al Qaeda and Bin Laden go remember, after all those big promises, then after killing him, later armed rebels who were aligned. I posted a chart of a poll which shows Europe creeping to towards the right What was so difficult about that?

Regarding Pogo, I've generally found his posts very informative and rarely felt the urge to agree or disagree with him.

[gumboot]

The shooter's father has said that 'god should punish gays' not his son.

His son didn't say it, or he meant that his son shouldn't punish gays because that's God's job?

[gumboot]

I've simply countered a thread designed to laugh and point at Trump and blame the worlds problems on him, by showing what a mess America makes of things without Trump's help.

Of course, Trump hasn't even been president before, so there's not a lot of reason to blame him for the world's ills.

The theme here is how much worse Trump could do, above and beyond the awfulness of your average politician.

[PumaG]

The shooter's father has said that 'god should punish gays' not his son.

His son didn't say it, or he meant that his son shouldn't punish gays because that's God's job?

I'm waiting to read a firm report. It appears the old man has posted something similar on Facebook int he past.
The journalism is absolute dire at the moment. You've got the Telegraph's David Millward claiming the situation is now like Pearl Harbour and can't even get his facts right regarding Trump's tweets after the event.

[PumaG]

I've simply countered a thread designed to laugh and point at Trump and blame the worlds problems on him, by showing what a mess America makes of things without Trump's help.

Of course, Trump hasn't even been president before, so there's not a lot of reason to blame him for the world's ills.

The theme here is how much worse Trump could do, above and beyond the awfulness of your average politician.

whilst some of us are often in agreement his proposals are impossible and he will have to back-track, which is the same level of awfulness as most other leaders.

This is hardly Pearl harbour like the vile David Millward claims.

[gumboot]

whilst some of us are often in agreement his proposals are impossible and he will have to back-track, which is the same level of awfulness as most other leaders.

Well, his proposals are actually substantially more idiotic than your average politician. In some ways that's better because one has no fear of them actually happening, but on the other he's a reflection of just how ugly a substantial proportion of Americans really are.

Which is a bit grim, really, because America had been looking like it was starting to grow up. I wouldn't have moved here if it hadn't looked that way at the time.

[k345y]

Dont mean to be rude, but if you and other blinkered people understood my points I'd be offended.

Define blinkered...is it folks that just disagree with you, those unaware of certain facts that only almighty knowledgeable you knows; us great ignorant horde that appear to disgust you ?

Really need to ease that pole out your fucking arse a bit mate.