Trump

[Darkflame]

And all this is before he releases his tax's. Assuming he ever does.

[F-ZeroOne]

Anyone told him Scotland largely voted to "Remain" yet?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-36606184

[Mayhem]

Anyone told him Scotland largely voted to "Remain" yet?

Yes

[F-ZeroOne]

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[merman]

Clinton's lead opening up.
Sanders supporters moving to Clinton quicker than Clinton's supporters moved to Obama in '08

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

[pogo]

Clinton’s lead is around 12% in recent polls. This is unprecedented in recent presidential elections. American politics is usually intensely tribal, with the vast majority of voters voting along party lines, and only a small number in the middle determining the result. You can see this in this wide graphic.

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Since Reagan got almost 60% of the vote in 1984 the winning margin has been under 10%, often much under. Three elections, including 2000, were won by the person who came second in the popular vote due to the state electoral college system. The vote then was so close it in effect did not matter.

It should be close now, as the parties rally around their presumptive candidates and reward them for winning the primaries. Normally one of them only pulls into a lead after the conferences, when the campaign proper starts and when they have more chances to compare them and their platforms. But Trump has already been written off, not just by Democrats and Independents but by many Republicans. It’s hard to imagine it getting better for him; it could get much worse.

[Darkflame]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/trump-havin ... -accounts/

I dont even.
Where to we start with this?
I mean...what is this even?

Is he just senile at this point? Whats going on in his head?

[pogo]

FiveThirtyEight have done their first forecast of Clinton vs. Trump and put her chance of winning at 80%

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... -forecast/

This might seem low but you could not expect greater precision at this point. FiveThirtyEight deal in probabilities and statistics and this early will have very limited data to go on. In particular state polls will be very thin on the ground at the moment.

[gumboot]

I would like to think that Trump being a total fucking shithead would be all the data you'd ever need to do much better than 80%; but sadly I know this isn't the case.

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The Donald reminiscing about the good old days.

Let's make Iraq great again!

[pogo]

Sanders has endorsed Clinton. It took a bit longer than it had to, but then he is not exactly a mainstream candidate and feels less of an obligation towards the establishment. But it happened eventually, as expected. Clinton already had endorsements from pretty much everyone else that matters in the Democratic party, including of course Obama.

The contrast with Trump is stark. He is being shunned by many major Republicans, who still seem to be banking on something terrible happening to him so they can insert someone more electable at the last minute at the convention next week. Many who eventually supported him have since tried to back away from him, as they get asked about every offensive, crazy or false thing he says.

He seems to have toned it down recently, or at least put his foot in it less often. But the convention is next week and attention on him will become much more intense. Plus it will be a very different from his normal rallies, with a more diverse and skeptical audience. He has not shown much sign of being able to adapt to different audiences, so it will be interesting to see how he copes.

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Interesting seeing Bader Ginsberg break protocol by slamming Trump when political campaigns are usually something supreme court justices steer well clear of.

There was some talk that these may have been unguarded comments, not meant for wider circulation so she doubled down and laid into him again, this time on CNN

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/12/polit ... ump-faker/

[Little stoned kiwi]

Sanders has endorsed Clinton. It took a bit longer than it had to, but then he is not exactly a mainstream candidate and feels less of an obligation towards the establishment. But it happened eventually, as expected. Clinton already had endorsements from pretty much everyone else that matters in the Democratic party, including of course Obama.

I think you are understating what he achieved. He played the game and played it well. Representing the interests of his voter base and getting their policies implemented in the final platform is an example of how well the US primary system can work when everyone engages in constructive competition. His endorsement feels genuine and unifying rather than the whimper of a little dog rolling over.
He carried himself with dignity and seemed driven by selfless goals that have earned him my respect. The exact opposite of Trump.

I still want Trump to win though, because. And fuck Hillary.