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I still cant fathom how any lie or evil Hillary has said or promises to do is even in the same ballpark of Trump.
Its like one person who you know will rob you, and another person who will kill you - and somehow you pick the murderer as the better option.

Expanding GitMo? Torturing Family's of Terrorists? These are things that can actually happen.

Is it because Trump outright states his many,many,many horrible intentions that somehow he gets a pass?
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Darkflame wrote:Is it because Trump outright states his many,many,many horrible intentions that somehow he gets a pass?
It's because anarchy and stuff the USA, when it's ootsiders. Why any USA citizen would want him I can't understand.
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Darkflame wrote:Its like one person who you know will rob you, and another person who will kill you - and somehow you pick the murderer as the better option.
It is - your family get to inherit your wallet.
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Unless your family is from mexico, in which case your family gets a empty wallet as it all has to go for paying for a wall.
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Republican Party sets out its platform, is as inclusive and accepting as you would expect:

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-co ... d=homepage
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Trump and Clinton are both dangerous people capable of doing anything they think. I picture Trump as being less of a thinker.
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I'm sure Trump can and does do far more than he thinks.
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In terms of "being able to do whatever they think", thats not quite true. Americas political system is great at blocking things and inaction. The President does not have absolute power. Which is great. Unfortunately the track record regarding human rights, wars, torture etc isn't great. - no one in congress wants to be seen being "soft" after all.

And again, Clinton has not remotely said anything close to the horrors Trump has said he wants to do.
"there both just as bad!" which is so popular does not remotely wash.
F-ZeroOne wrote:Republican Party sets out its platform, is as inclusive and accepting as you would expect:

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-co ... d=homepage
Wow. Just wow.
It is 2016 right? I mean, I see solar panels on roofs and a car charging station around the corner.....but that platform makes me think its at least a decade back. Maybe two.
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Darkflame wrote:In terms of "being able to do whatever they think", thats not quite true. Americas political system is great at blocking things and inaction. The President does not have absolute power. Which is great. Unfortunately the track record regarding human rights, wars, torture etc isn't great. - no one in congress wants to be seen being "soft" after all.

And again, Clinton has not remotely said anything close to the horrors Trump has said he wants to do.
"there both just as bad!" which is so popular does not remotely wash.
F-ZeroOne wrote:Republican Party sets out its platform, is as inclusive and accepting as you would expect:

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-co ... d=homepage
Wow. Just wow.
It is 2016 right? I mean, I see solar panels on roofs and a car charging station around the corner.....but that platform makes me think its at least a decade back. Maybe two.
I mean, it is illegal to live completely off the grid in California at very least.... that should say a lot already.
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Neon360 wrote:
Darkflame wrote:In terms of "being able to do whatever they think", thats not quite true. Americas political system is great at blocking things and inaction. The President does not have absolute power. Which is great. Unfortunately the track record regarding human rights, wars, torture etc isn't great. - no one in congress wants to be seen being "soft" after all.

And again, Clinton has not remotely said anything close to the horrors Trump has said he wants to do.
"there both just as bad!" which is so popular does not remotely wash.
F-ZeroOne wrote:Republican Party sets out its platform, is as inclusive and accepting as you would expect:

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-co ... d=homepage
Wow. Just wow.
It is 2016 right? I mean, I see solar panels on roofs and a car charging station around the corner.....but that platform makes me think its at least a decade back. Maybe two.
I mean, it is illegal to live completely off the grid in California at very least.... that should say a lot already.
Illegal ?

So if you have your own well, you have panels/generator and you have a small garden you grow your own ( or some at least ) food you are illegal ? (*)

[edit] (*) I forgot Monsanto .. yes if you plant your own seeds that are NOT hybrids ( supplied by Monsanto ) and you have plants that can actually replicated they will do ALL they can to make you stop.
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Darkflame wrote:It is 2016 right? I mean, I see solar panels on roofs and a car charging station around the corner.....but that platform makes me think its at least a decade back. Maybe two.
When I see solar panels on a roof my first thought is that the homeowner is probably a naive old lady who has just been ripped off.

It's a nice idea in principle, but the people installing them are doing you no favours with their financial arrangements.
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I am sure there are rip-offs. But do your research and they are easily good investments these days.

I bought mine outright (no rental), assuming electrical prices stay the same it will pay for itself in 7-8 years. (including the cost of inverter and installation). They are warrantied to last 25 years at 80% of original efficiency. So even if it explodes on the 25th year, it would have given me many years of profit.
It is dependent on your electrical supplier, of course - mine buys electricity at the same price its sales it for. I would assume this arrangement will get increasingly rare as usage of solar power increases. If you cant sale your electricity back they are probably worthless.

The only other thing I think of cost wise is they probably have to be cleaned. Had mine two years and it doesn't yet.....but probably if you live in a busy city with worse rain quality it might be more of a issue. (Id assume youd see average power generation go down as the dirt increases)
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Darkflame wrote:In terms of "being able to do whatever they think", thats not quite true. Americas political system is great at blocking things and inaction. The President does not have absolute power. Which is great. Unfortunately the track record regarding human rights, wars, torture etc isn't great. - no one in congress wants to be seen being "soft" after all.

And again, Clinton has not remotely said anything close to the horrors Trump has said he wants to do.
"there both just as bad!" which is so popular does not remotely wash.
F-ZeroOne wrote:Republican Party sets out its platform, is as inclusive and accepting as you would expect:

http://time.com/4401600/gop-platform-co ... d=homepage
Wow. Just wow.
It is 2016 right? I mean, I see solar panels on roofs and a car charging station around the corner.....but that platform makes me think its at least a decade back. Maybe two.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:Apparently discussing the idea that education should include a "good understanding of the Bible" took up a lot of committee time on Monday afternoon. I rather suspect that at least some of those proposing that idea perhaps need a better understanding of the Bible themselves...
Could be worse. It could have been so obvious it didn't warrant any discussion.
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My electricity bills are $20-$40 per month and I'm extremely wasteful, so hoping to get the cost of ownership paid off before I've moved elsewhere (or before an old person dies) isn't a good bet. Rental options take more or less all of the profit for themselves, and you still have all of the costs of maintenance (maintenance against the damage they do to your own home rather than maintenance of the panels themselves, but you probably end up paying for both).

It's a shame that in a place with so much sun profiteers have managed to make solar so unappealing.
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