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Re: Trump
More on why Trump’s claims of a rigged vote is so wrong:
A Trump Victory Is a Scary Thought. A Disputed Loss Might Be Scarier.
Worth highlighting when Republicans talk of election fraud they don’t mean fraud as you or I might recognise it. I mean, they claim there is genuine fraud, but as here it would be hard, expensive and futile, and there is no evidence of it being a serious problem. Better to spend your money on regular political donations, your efforts on regular events.
What they really mean by “fraud” is too many Blacks voting. Really. They see Democratic efforts to get out the black vote as illegitimate attempts to steal elections. Never mind that such efforts take place to try and compensate for historic and current barriers put in the way of Black voters. So they have laws to stop blacks voting. Registration requirements designed to make it hard for poor and so Black voters to register. Bans on former prisoners voting, which disproportionately affects Blacks as they get locked up more. Most notoriously Republicans closed down ACORN, an organisation that was very active in voter registration for poor people.They did it with a fraudulent video, which was quickly proven to be a fraud, but not before Republicans had used it to justify defunding ACORN and closing it down.
This infamous video from 2012 shows how they think, even if they are not normally stupid enough to admit it. It’s all about fraudulently suppressing Democrat votes, using whatever pretence they can. Romney lost Pennsylvania, despite Republican attempts to steal it.
A Trump Victory Is a Scary Thought. A Disputed Loss Might Be Scarier.
Worth highlighting when Republicans talk of election fraud they don’t mean fraud as you or I might recognise it. I mean, they claim there is genuine fraud, but as here it would be hard, expensive and futile, and there is no evidence of it being a serious problem. Better to spend your money on regular political donations, your efforts on regular events.
What they really mean by “fraud” is too many Blacks voting. Really. They see Democratic efforts to get out the black vote as illegitimate attempts to steal elections. Never mind that such efforts take place to try and compensate for historic and current barriers put in the way of Black voters. So they have laws to stop blacks voting. Registration requirements designed to make it hard for poor and so Black voters to register. Bans on former prisoners voting, which disproportionately affects Blacks as they get locked up more. Most notoriously Republicans closed down ACORN, an organisation that was very active in voter registration for poor people.They did it with a fraudulent video, which was quickly proven to be a fraud, but not before Republicans had used it to justify defunding ACORN and closing it down.
This infamous video from 2012 shows how they think, even if they are not normally stupid enough to admit it. It’s all about fraudulently suppressing Democrat votes, using whatever pretence they can. Romney lost Pennsylvania, despite Republican attempts to steal it.
Re: Trump
To his face?gravy wrote:And who could fault his judgement!
Very few would have the balls, I feel.
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Re: Trump
Donald Trump offers some free investment advice
He’s not a good politician but he seems to know something about investing and property. Or does he?:

Elizabeth Warren noted something similar months ago, that with the money he inherited he would have been richer now if he had just put it in the stock market, e.g. in dumb tracker funds which just follow the market. His strategy, whatever it was, must have wasted a lot, lost a money for Trump. On top of all the people impoverished by his business tactics.
He’s not a good politician but he seems to know something about investing and property. Or does he?:

Elizabeth Warren noted something similar months ago, that with the money he inherited he would have been richer now if he had just put it in the stock market, e.g. in dumb tracker funds which just follow the market. His strategy, whatever it was, must have wasted a lot, lost a money for Trump. On top of all the people impoverished by his business tactics.
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Re: Trump
My problem is you did not even acknowledge you were repeating what I had posted. You just went ahead and posted your source as if you were introducing the topic of vote rigging.pogo wrote:Er, yes, and what is your problem? I just thought it an interesting example of where such thinking is coming from. I think I vaguely remember that particular episode four years ago, at some point when the first results were coming in, and Rove could not believe Romney was losing. The odd thing is the polls were predicting the Obama win. It’s not like here in 2015, when the result was very different to the polls.
in 2008 and 2012 Republicans lost in part to Democrats’ superior ground game: their local activists, their intelligence gathering expertise, their targeted advertising, mailshots and phone calls. Part of that was probably Democrats’ better polling. And it’s even worse for them now as Trump has almost no organisation and little money for a ground game, which is important as the election becomes a state-by-state battle.
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Even if they had the balls, they might end up without their ears.KlaxonCow wrote:Very few would have the balls, I feel.
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Re: Trump
Mike Tyson and Penn Jillette seem to agree on the point that Trump isn't (and couldn't possibly be) as stupid as he makes himself appear; but only Penn bothers to mention how inappropriate that would be for a president.
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Re: Trump
This could get interesting:
Gaps in Melania Trump's immigration story raise questions
She’s the one who gave a speech at the RNC that plagiarised Michelle Obama’s 2008 speech remember. Strong evidence that she came to the US and worked illegally a couple of decades ago. Not really a punishable crime – the punishment would be to deport her and cancel her visa but she presumably now has a separate, permanent right to remain based on marriage.
But she is married to the candidate who has made deporting illegal immigrants a campaign issue. It’s not likely to be exploited by Clinton, but other Republicans could highlight it. Trump can hardly complain it’s unfair to go after her; not only is she part of his campaign but Trump has made a habit of targeting other people’s families and spouses when it suits him. Plus it gives the less honourable ones (e.g. those like Trump) an excuse to discuss what she was doing – porn – and show some of the pictures of it.
Edit: and in case someone is thinking “what, really, porn?” here’s the NY Post coverage with pictures. With modesty preserving pixels but still NSFW.
Melina Trump like you’ve never seen her before
Melina Trump’s girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed
From the articles there are even more explicit photos they chose not to share.
Gaps in Melania Trump's immigration story raise questions
She’s the one who gave a speech at the RNC that plagiarised Michelle Obama’s 2008 speech remember. Strong evidence that she came to the US and worked illegally a couple of decades ago. Not really a punishable crime – the punishment would be to deport her and cancel her visa but she presumably now has a separate, permanent right to remain based on marriage.
But she is married to the candidate who has made deporting illegal immigrants a campaign issue. It’s not likely to be exploited by Clinton, but other Republicans could highlight it. Trump can hardly complain it’s unfair to go after her; not only is she part of his campaign but Trump has made a habit of targeting other people’s families and spouses when it suits him. Plus it gives the less honourable ones (e.g. those like Trump) an excuse to discuss what she was doing – porn – and show some of the pictures of it.
Edit: and in case someone is thinking “what, really, porn?” here’s the NY Post coverage with pictures. With modesty preserving pixels but still NSFW.
Melina Trump like you’ve never seen her before
Melina Trump’s girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed
From the articles there are even more explicit photos they chose not to share.
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Well, she's naked, yeah, but it's hardly porn.pogo wrote:Edit: and in case someone is thinking “what, really, porn?” here’s the NY Post coverage with pictures. With modesty preserving pixels but still NSFW.
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Re: Trump
Trump suggesting his daughter - you know, the spoilt one who has never worked and who Trump wanted to date - would be in line for a position in his cabinet.
He's starting on the nepotism.
He's starting on the nepotism.
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Re: Trump
I still have yet to comprehend why Hillary is viewed as "so bad".
Yes, she fucked up and caused a security risk with her emails. Sure, critic her for that, but the visceral and hatred seems insanely disproportionate to anything she has ever actually done.
Its like people have to quickly think up reasons to hate her as they cant remember why that hated her to start with.
Its like that Bengazi stuff. 7 investigations now? 8? And nada.
Who the fuck keeps going after someone that many times for the same thing?
Aside from the millions wasted in money surely after, say, 4 times any sane person must see its a witchhunt. :-/
I dont think her detractors are all stupid or anything, but they do seem to be avoiding questioning some stuff.
Yes, she fucked up and caused a security risk with her emails. Sure, critic her for that, but the visceral and hatred seems insanely disproportionate to anything she has ever actually done.
Its like people have to quickly think up reasons to hate her as they cant remember why that hated her to start with.
Its like that Bengazi stuff. 7 investigations now? 8? And nada.
Who the fuck keeps going after someone that many times for the same thing?
Aside from the millions wasted in money surely after, say, 4 times any sane person must see its a witchhunt. :-/
I dont think her detractors are all stupid or anything, but they do seem to be avoiding questioning some stuff.
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