Trump

[Darkflame]

More evidence to the "maybe there's a bit more wrong with Trump" pile.
He doesn't seem to know what Sarcasm is;

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 5332396032

Ratings challenged @CNN reports so seriously that I call President Obama (and Clinton) "the founder" of ISIS, & MVP. THEY DON'T GET SARCASM?

The problem is some people are so sold on Trump, we are probably going to erode what sarcasm means just to get this to fit.

[pogo]

From 2011, the idea seems to be that comedians get to tell the worst jokes they can about the subject, who has to sit there and take it. With Donald Trump they had a lot of material to work with. It would be even worse now, though he probably would give it a miss.

The interesting thing though is the one joke Donald Trump banned from his Comedy Central Roast:

"The only thing we got from Trump was the request not to say he exaggerates his wealth," Lee wrote, adding that it's standard for Comedy Central Roast subjects to deem certain things off-limits.

It I think relates to the poll issue. The polls, like his wealth, are measures of self worth, and vitally important to him. He has sued (and lost) because someone questioned his net worth - that was the reason he was in a deposition being grilled by lawyers about all his other lies. He uses his wealth to justify his presidential run, saying he will use his experience as a successful businessman to make America into a success. No wonder he is thinking of a long holiday if he loses, it has been a bruising experience for these measures of self worth.

[merman]

70 senior Republicans including Senators have written to the National Committee, calling on them to stop funding Trump's campaign.

But what options does the party have if they don't want Trump?
BBC's Tim Swift analyses the options

- hope Trump quits the race
- declare Trump "not of sound mind"
- campaign for a third-party candidate
- do no campaigning for this year, concentrate on the Congress & Senate

[TFO]

70 senior Republicans including Senators have written to the National Committee, calling on them to stop funding Trump's campaign.

But what options does the party have if they don't want Trump?
BBC's Tim Swift analyses the options

- hope Trump quits the race
- declare Trump "not of sound mind"
- campaign for a third-party candidate
- do no campaigning for this year, concentrate on the Congress & Senate

Or assassinate him. Not short of people with guns in the US

[KlaxonCow]

Is this the level that American politics has descended to?

Where everyone's just recommending assassinating of all the candidates?

I mean, I understand the feelings of hopeless despair here. But still.

[F-ZeroOne]

This is just beautiful:

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/08/12/zapp ... ump-quotes

[pogo]

Is this the level that American politics has descended to?

Where everyone's just recommending assassinating of all the candidates?

It’s Karma, for Trump’s threats of such. Keep this up the US Secret Service may feel they have to take care of him somehow before his supporters follow through on one of his invitations to armed insurrection.

Anyway, it’s far too late for Republicans to kick out Trump. The convention was their last opportunity. They are stuck with him now. It’s too late now for anyone entering the race to get on the ballot in many states, making it mathematically impossible for them to win nationally. If Trump quits as he has hinted at at least once, they are stuffed and Clinton becomes president.

[KlaxonCow]

It’s Karma, for Trump’s threats of such.

To which I must invoke Gandhi: "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind".

How can you condemn Trump for death threats, if your response is to issue death threats back? That makes you just as bad as the very thing you were condemning in the first place.

Be wary of vengeance. Through it, you become your enemy, wielding the very weapons you once condemned, to commit the acts you once despised.

"But he started it!", goes up the protest. Perhaps. But what are we? 8 year olds in the school playground?

[pogo]

I’m not issuing death threats, the Democrats certainly aren’t. But Trump is on very dangerous grounds when he is suggesting people assassinate judges and the sitting president (he was not saying what should happen before the election but what should happen after if Clinton were elected). If he keeps it up, and if people start acting on it, then the secret service who are charged with protecting the president might feel obliged to act.

[Darkflame]

Aside from anything else, Pretty sure Trump as a martyr would be just as, if not more dangerous.

[gravy]

http://screencrush.com/futurama-donald- ... illy-west/

[KlaxonCow]

I’m not issuing death threats

To be clear, I was using the generic "you" there and was not specifically referring to anyone in particular (indeed, my earlier point was that "everyone" was doing this on all sides - and I'm being philosophical about it, so I'm talking general principle, not any individual action - so my rebuke was meant in an entirely universal way here).

Though, granted, on reading it back now, I can see the confusion, as I failed to make it clear that I was being generic, so you can't be faulted for reading it that way. I should have correctly introduced the fact that I was talking generically with, say, "how can one...?" - as one is always generic - before falling into the generic "you" (just because using "one" throughout would just sound too pretentious... and unnatural, as I'm not the Queen).

[Dio]

If Trump quits as he has hinted at at least once, they are stuffed and Clinton becomes president.

They may still feel it's better for him to quit than to lose. Then they can attack Clinton as never having been elected President.

[Absolute_Zero]

Anyway, it’s far too late for Republicans to kick out Trump.

They may not have to. As the poll pressures increase, it becomes more and more likely that he'll do or say something so utterly beyond the pale that he has little option but to bail before the ballot.

That's been my gut feeling since May.
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=2 ... p#p1649051

"MY,INYCTHWMITTB" = Mind you, I'm not yet convinced that he will make it to the ballot.

I might as well have spelled it out since nobody took the bait/bet... too busy fretting about the unlikely.

[gumboot]

If Trump quits as he has hinted at at least once, they are stuffed and Clinton becomes president.

They may still feel it's better for him to quit than to lose. Then they can attack Clinton as never having been elected President.

Couldn't an independent still pop up and gain personal (if not party) endorsements from Republicans?

And if that's not in their interests then maybe a Democrat should run independently, just so it's an election and not a default.