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She fainted? Happens to everyone at some point. I’ve fainted twice that I can recall: full on falling over unconscious. I’ve come close on many other occasions, sitting down or lying down before it happened. Here e.g. is Bush the elder fainting in 1992.



His son did the same ten years later.

President George W. Bush fainted after choking on a pretzel in 2002
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pogo wrote:She fainted? Happens to everyone at some point.

No it doesn't.
Loss of consciousness is a serious matter and yes, although there maybe some occasions when it's one off it's very much a symptom or indicator of something else. More often than not it's cardiac related.
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k345y wrote:
pogo wrote:She fainted? Happens to everyone at some point.

No it doesn't.
Loss of consciousness is a serious matter and yes, although there maybe some occasions when it's one off it's very much a symptom or indicator of something else. More often than not it's cardiac related.
Yeah, I agree, I have felt faint a couple of times and it's almost always about trying to draw my blood, it's just something that works me up, but that's almost entirely a different thing than just wandering about and then fainting for "no reason".
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In my case it was after over-exerting myself cycling, so perhaps an indication of my own lack of care about myself. People often faint due to heat, or due to other sickness. It indicates nothing more than a temporary shortage of blood to the brain, with the emphasis on temporary, in particular as fainting, i.e. lying down, is usually all that’s needed to recover.
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Fainting was pretty common in my school growing up. Something about the hall/stage/heat added up I think. Often at assembly a child would collapse.

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Anyway, how the fuck is this talked about but not the fact Trump outright says the US should have stole Iraqs oil?
Even if Hillary spontaneously human combusted the first day, shed still make a better president then someone who would use the force of the us army to actually steal stuff.
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Darkflame wrote:Anyway, how the fuck is this talked about but not the fact Trump outright says the US should have stole Iraqs oil?
Even if Hillary spontaneously human combusted the first day, shed still make a better president then someone who would use the force of the us army to actually steal stuff.
Well, you're taking it off on a tangent there as I didn't post the news with any bias, I simply reported what had just happened.

If I were in the US, there's not a cats chance in hell that idiot Trumph would be getting my vote, but I'd certainly be watching the recent speculation about Clinton's health with great interest.
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Was this in the news at the time? Some kind of crazy spasm.

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I must have missed it. How did they explain it away?
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Worst case you just have to assume you're voting for her running mate, who is also perfectly qualified to be not Trump.


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Darkflame wrote:Fainting was pretty common in my school growing up. Something about the hall/stage/heat added up I think. Often at assembly a child would collapse.
That actually strikes me as pretty weird. I never known anyone to faint during assembly.

I fainted once while I was trying to get a better view of the knee surgery I was having done. Felt it coming, announced it so the sharps could be withdrawn, laid down flat, and then I woke up more disoriented than I'd ever been in my life. A hard reset like I'd never experienced before.
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Pneumonia apparently, at least that was the official explanation.
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gumboot wrote:
Darkflame wrote:Fainting was pretty common in my school growing up. Something about the hall/stage/heat added up I think. Often at assembly a child would collapse.
That actually strikes me as pretty weird. I never known anyone to faint during assembly.
Well, maybe it was? I dont know as I dont have other context.
It wasn't daily or anything, but it was often enough no one panicked or even really batted a eye-lid.
Normally the child recovered pretty quick.

I never had it myself, I always assumed it was a more expream case of a "dizzy spell" if you get up too quick or were feeling lightheaded.
Well, you're taking it off on a tangent there as I didn't post the news with any bias, I simply reported what had just happened.
I refer not to the news itself so much as the relative attention one news gets over the other, even in this thread.
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Well we now know, it was a warm day and she was ill, with pneumonia. So two common reasons someone can feel faint. She’s also been working very hard; it’s been almost non-stop for a year or more, first in the campaign against Sanders that continued right up to the convention, then into the main event against Trump which has been full-on since then.

Trump on the other hand has been taking it easy. Turning out for short events but not turning them into full day or overnight affairs, returning home to New York after them. He seems to do a lot of interviews by phone, which presumably he can do from home. And of course much of his communication is by Tweet which he can do quickly from anywhere.

His lack of effort and lack of attention to the nitty gritty of shows in the amateurism of his campaign. It also might cost him the election. With polls narrowing it could come down to individual states and that’s where time spent on the ground in those states can make a difference.
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If he knew what he was doing, he wouldn't have bothered running. His ignorance, inexperience, and insistence on doing it his own way are probably the reason he's made it this far.
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Here you go. Mentions the two I remembered and a bunch more:

Not just Hillary Clinton: There’s a great tradition of fainting in US politics
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So I guess we'll see the "she might be dead soon" Trump card.
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