Trump

[pogo]

Trump now says he will release his medical records, which will be interesting. He could be fit as a fiddle but I doubt it. His lifestyle for one, and the fact he was too ill to serve in the US Army in his youth. He just looks unfit and unwell, likely to collapse with a heart problem at any moment.

Trump issues pledge on medical records after Clinton diagnosis

Or he could still change his mind on this, if doctors give him bad news. Will be interesting to see what if anything is released.

[KlaxonCow]

and the fact he was too ill to serve in the US Army in his youth.

Yes, he was suffering from "Billionaire's Affluenza". A terrible condition that afflicts rich people, where their vast amounts of money prevent them from doing military service. Somehow.

[pogo]

Yes, it was hardly uncommon. Many escaped the draft by exploiting one of the many exemptions.

It should be automatically disqualifying for a Republican though. This is the same man who criticised John McCain, a genuine war hero and former prisoner of war, for “getting caught”, and criticised the parents of another war hero, who Americans normally call “Gold Star” parents as they accord them so much respect. He is unfit to be president, but particularly unfit to be commander in chief.

[zip accident]

If Clinton dies before the election, does Trump win automatically?

[pogo]

Not automatically: there are third party candidates, including two (Jill Stein, Gary Johnson) with national recognition. And in some cases voters can write in the name of someone they want and that counts as a vote. But yes, if Clinton does not survive until November then Trump is almost certain to win.

The opposite case though is one to be worried about (if you are a Republican). Trump is older, he has been far less forthcoming about his health, and has at times seemed to suggest he might quit, maybe even before the election, handing it to Clinton.

[gumboot]

What if she wins but dies the day after? Will trump insist the presidency goes to second place?

[pogo]

Not sure. If she survives until inauguration in January then the VP is the automatic successor. But before that? I think in certain circumstances the House of Representatives gets to decide, and this might be one of them. Given that the House of Representatives is Republican held that would mean a Republican president.

But really, Clinton is healthy and Trump is as far as we know not at death’s door. Neither is likely to keel over in the next two or four months. Anything is possible but that is not a scenario to be concerned about (Trump quitting before the election if he’s losing seems far more likely).

[k345y]

I think trump may be closer to death's door than you think, especially if he wins, he's the ultimate candidate for assassination.

*places tinfoil hat on head* will the powers that be really allow him to take power?

[PFVA]

It's not uncommon people fainting with hot weather, specially if they are standing for a while. Just recently here i remember our former President fainting and a Minister of Finances doing it too. Of course that always leads to jokes or serious speculation specially by the oposition.

And i remember a bunch of kids fainting, one after the other, at some cerimony in the US when they were waiting for Bush son who was very late to arrive.

[gumboot]

Fainting was pretty common in my school growing up. Something about the hall/stage/heat added up I think. Often at assembly a child would collapse.

That actually strikes me as pretty weird. I never known anyone to faint during assembly.

Well, maybe it was? I dont know as I dont have other context.
It wasn't daily or anything, but it was often enough no one panicked or even really batted a eye-lid.
Normally the child recovered pretty quick.

Maybe there was something less than ideal about your assembly hall that was causing it (in whatever way being a shitty environment when packed with students), and the staff were just "kids, eh?" about it rather than showing proper concern.

Or maybe it was nearby power lines, or a cellular antenna, or chemtrails, or ...

I never had it myself, I always assumed it was a more expream case of a "dizzy spell" if you get up too quick or were feeling lightheaded.

I've had dizzy spells without losing consciousness -- although I suppose that's a continuum and I should restrict myself to "without falling down" -- but that hard-reset effect of complete loss of consciousness is something I really couldn't have imagined before experiencing it. None of the drug abduction scenes in the movies can really get the feeling across.

[Darkflame]

Trump now says he will release his medical records, which will be interesting. He could be fit as a fiddle but I doubt it. His lifestyle for one, and the fact he was too ill to serve in the US Army in his youth. He just looks unfit and unwell, likely to collapse with a heart problem at any moment.

Trump issues pledge on medical records after Clinton diagnosis

It is sort of interesting that he will budge on this and not taxs. Not that its "oh, he is hiding x/y/z" so much (which he probably is as well), and more its evidence that he considers his perception of wealth sacrosanct above all else.

[pogo]

[gumboot]

It is sort of interesting that he will budge on this and not taxs. Not that its "oh, he is hiding x/y/z" so much (which he probably is as well), and more its evidence that he considers his perception of wealth sacrosanct above all else.

Maybe he had a doctor measure all of his fingers and record that in his record.

[KlaxonCow]

No doubt the reason why Trump is fine with this is because he knows how to rush and manipulate his personal doctor into writing hyperbolic letters declaring him "the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" (which, of course, is a nonsense statement to make, because though this doctor might be able to comment on Trump's health, he's not medically examined every single person ever elected to the presidency - going back to George Washington - to be able to make any factual comment on their comparative health with respect to Trump's).

It's a strange tale, indeed:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... -stranger/

[zip accident]

Aspirin and statins? That means stroke risk (if unmedicated). Or is he taking them on a whim?