Trump

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O-levels were the great filterer, and only those with grades A-C went on to A-levels and university.

If that's important to your argument it's worth noting it isn't true.

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* Hillary Clinton dead
* Bill on the run
* Michelle Obama likely shoo-in
* CGI Hillary to manage transition

Sources several.

[gumboot]

What the fuck is going on in that picture?

[KlaxonCow]

What the fuck is going on in that picture?

Welcome to the "selfie" generation.

[pogo]

O-levels were the great filterer, and only those with grades A-C went on to A-levels and university.

If that's important to your argument it's worth noting it isn't true.

It‘s not that important to my argument, just some background. At the time only 1 in 5 eighteen year olds went to university. The main way they were sorted out from the less academic was O-levels. Only a fraction of 16 year olds did O-levels, the rest did CSE. A pass in O-level meant you could do A-levels, and complete those and you could go to university, with your grades determining which universities you could apply to.

Some people dropped out of A-levels, or did not get the grades for the courses they wanted, but the main filter that steered the non-academic towards other vocations was the exams at age 16: if you could not pass O-levels then you were unlikely to be up to doing A-levels and going on to a degree.

It’s relevant background as a few years after I did my O-levels it all changed, with O-levels and CSE replaced with GCSE, and A-levels changed to cope with the changes. It worked; the numbers getting good grades at A-levels has shot up, and as they are required to get into university then university applications and places have shot up. And the key change was replacing O-levels and CSE with GCSE.

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Some people were dropped out of A-levels once the schools had recieved the funding for them.

FTFY.

[Dio]

Except that most polytechnics and even many universities were happy to take people on most degree courses with 'sub-par' or no A-levels, particularly if they'd gone off and done some real work first.

My mum, for example: 3 O-levels, no A-levels but a Masters degree in her 30s.

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And ditto for FE college admissions for A level study. C and above GCE results were not always a necessity.

[Darkflame]

Rather insightful clip;

https://twitter.com/Morning_Joe/status/ ... 0687647744

a) Journalists struggling to get a answer.
b) Other "journalists" happy/desperate to change subject &or not giving a toss.
c) The Trumps campaigns view of why making shit up isn't a lie.

[pogo]

Except that most polytechnics and even many universities were happy to take people on most degree courses with 'sub-par' or no A-levels, particularly if they'd gone off and done some real work first.

My mum, for example: 3 O-levels, no A-levels but a Masters degree in her 30s.

They were and still are happy to take such people: mature student is still offered by most if not all institutions, as a catch-all for people who haven’t followed the traditional route. I don’t know if the numbers have changed; probably they have increased along with the growing number of university courses and places, the the more jobs that require or are helped by having a degree.

[snaff]

What the fuck is going on in that picture?

Welcome to the "selfie" generation.

Don't they know green-screen CGI Hillary is invisible to phone cameras?

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Christ, where do you get such crap? Looking at a few pixels of spectators’ phone screens, trying to find evidence of a conspiracy, it’s just like the people who pulled apart footage of the Apollo landings, looking for evidence the moon landings were faked. Just like that and other nutjob conspiracy theorems it isn’t worth your time.

Anyway, debate ! Livestream !

Less than half an hour until it‘s due to start.

[gumboot]

It's totally worth looking into the conspiracy theories. At least until the train wreck starts.

If it's a green screen, what do all these people think they're recording?

[gumboot]

Who the fuck is this moderator? Where's Jerry Springer??

[pogo]

It's totally worth looking into the conspiracy theories. At least until the train wreck starts.

If it's a green screen, what do all these people think they're recording?

It’s not. It’s just retards who have never used a camera before not understanding what they are seeing. It‘s what much of the right has descended to, having given up trying to win over people with better policies, as they don’t have them. So it’s nutjob conspiracy theories.