PFVA wrote:What's bad in this i the fact the election is becoming just a "tabloid" issue.
There is no discussion of economics, social policies, etc. Taking in consideration that the most powerful president in the world is being elected and the world is watching the image being created of the US is less than desirable.
One believes in dealing with climate change.
The other believes its a hoax.
Should be a major issue.
Barely mentioned, and when it is its only a reality-questioning "I didnt say that" statement.
pogo wrote:First Bill Clinton didn’t abuse women, that we know. He slept around and messed around but there is no evidence it was anything other than consensual.
pogo wrote:First Bill Clinton didn’t abuse women, that we know. He slept around and messed around but there is no evidence it was anything other than consensual.
Judge, jury, and executioner, as well as arbiter of political good taste and explainer of all things economic.
"massive retard™", "full of shit™", "tiny bitch™", "retarted™", "a bit of a one trick pony™", "petty™", "simple minded idealistic twat™", "miserable humourless fucker™"
gravy wrote:Do you see any tension between these two views here?
Well, if Assange were innocent he would not have fled Sweden when wanted for arrest, and then concocted increasingly ludicrous excuses, that were examined and rejected by all levels of our legal system, for not returning. Hence “rapist”.
But it was not just a flippant jab at him. His sexual assaults were not violent ones, but crimes of male privilege – he assumed the women involved would want it as much as him and so went ahead without gaining consent. Very much like Trump. It may just be a coincidence that these two sexual predators have a shared interest in Russian hacks against Clinton and the DNC. But I can’t think of anything else they have in common.
PFVA wrote:What's bad in this i the fact the election is becoming just a "tabloid" issue.
There is no discussion of economics, social policies, etc. Taking in consideration that the most powerful president in the world is being elected and the world is watching the image being created of the US is less than desirable.
That's the situation as it would be after a normal election is won. There was discussion on policy when Bernie was a contender, and that's over. There was discussion on policy on the right up until Trump started to be a serious concern, and that's over too.
Now it's someone with some policy versus someone who's adamant that his hands are a normal size.
He’s an idiot as usual but that one is particularly special: even his neanderthal supporters might have noticed it. It’s pertinent as he does not have seven weeks he has four. Or not even that as voting has started already, locking in Clinton’s advantage among those voters. Trump needs to not only somehow draw level he needs to be clearly ahead in November to cancel out the votes already cast in October.
But he’s going backwards in the polls by the day. No surprise there, and no real change. Most interesting is what’s going on with other Republicans. Many had endorsed him as their presidential candidate, only to have second thoughts after Friday’s tape, and again after his debate performance. But seems that any Republican that goes public with this ends up being condemned by Republican voters, many of whom still support Trump.
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Support Trump and drive away women, moderate and educated voters appalled by him. Or disown Trump and piss off Republican voters that are Trump supporters, who support him precisely because he is anti-establisment. So Trump could seriously affect many Senate and Congress races, handing Clinton Democrat majorities in one or both houses. No wonder they are desperate to get rid of him.
Obama's urging of senior Republicans to formally withdraw their endorsement of Trump is a bad move... it's certain to have the opposite effect. Ditto the UN human rights chief calling Trump 'dangerous' - whilst true, his through-the-looking-glass support will be delighted.
PFVA wrote:What's bad in this i the fact the election is becoming just a "tabloid" issue.
There is no discussion of economics, social policies, etc. Taking in consideration that the most powerful president in the world is being elected and the world is watching the image being created of the US is less than desirable.
There's a bloke in the UK who wants to get elected and is going about it by talking policies/issues and little else. You wouldn't know it from the headlines, though.
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Absolute_Zero wrote:Obama's urging of senior Republicans to formally withdraw their endorsement of Trump is a bad move... it's certain to have the opposite effect. Ditto the UN human rights chief calling Trump 'dangerous' - whilst true, his through-the-looking-glass support will be delighted.
Obama is doing the right thing as President, not as a Democrat. Where the two are mutually exclusive he's going with the job he's taken an oath to do, I can't really see that he has much choice. It's absolutely something the President should speak abut and there's very little else one could say.
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Absolute_Zero wrote:Obama's urging of senior Republicans to formally withdraw their endorsement of Trump is a bad move... it's certain to have the opposite effect. Ditto the UN human rights chief calling Trump 'dangerous' - whilst true, his through-the-looking-glass support will be delighted.
Trump’s hardcore of support will pay little attention to Obama. But others might: Obama is highly respected and liked, much more than either of the candidates or most politicians. He also has a unique viewpoint; when he compares Trump to other Republicans such as Bush, McCain and Romney he is speaking from direct experience of running against them or succeeding them. When Obama says Trump isn’t like other Republicans he knows what he is talking about.
Then there‘s this, his roast of Trump. Obama knows exactly who Trump is, what he’s about, and has for a long time.
Absolute_Zero wrote:Obama's urging of senior Republicans to formally withdraw their endorsement of Trump is a bad move... it's certain to have the opposite effect.
With the congress up for grabs it's great for the Democrats if GOP stands by Trump as it'll deter moderate floating voters from going red.
Governmentyard wrote:Obama is doing the right thing as President, not as a Democrat. Where the two are mutually exclusive he's going with the job he's taken an oath to do, I can't really see that he has much choice. It's absolutely something the President should speak abut and there's very little else one could say.
The role is a political role, and what he has to do should be done with politics in mind. That so many politicians are reactionary zealots (because that's what pays in the industry) means that he has to do something more complicated than simply saying what he means.
Of course, if he's using quadruple reverse psychology then that's just fine.
Dunno, maybe. Instinctive centre/right Republican voters may be inclined to stay home in the face a fracturing GOP. I prefer them breaking apart rather than reflexively doing, as they have done for two terms, the opposite of whatever Obama wants.
