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gravy wrote:It would be in a normal election. I'm pretty sure Mitt Romney would have beat her for example.
I once thought that, but now I’m not so sure. She looked pretty vulnerable six to twelve months ago, under serious challenge from an elderly socialist. But she was never seriously under threat, and in beating Sanders was able to unite the party in a way that seemed unlikely during the primary campaign.

The problems in the Republican party aren’t only due to Trump. They go back a number of cycles. McCain choosing Sarah Palin as running mate eight years ago. Ronmey becoming candidate only after a bruising campaign where the lead changed hands a number of times. Romney was the flawed compromise candidate that arose from that process, and had his own share of problems.

Deep down the Republican party is pretty unelectable now. Their policy platform consists of unfunded tax cuts for the rich and a random collection of social policies they know they cannot deliver on, such as abolishing abortion, rolling back civil rights. The social policies let them build a coalition of conservative voters, who then get angry when they don’t see them implemented. After too many years of this the Republican base is so angry it rejects anyone too closely associated with the establishment. Hence Palin, Romney and now Trump.
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I think it's fair to say her suitability is hard to judge given the state of the GOP and Trump is pretty much overwhelming everything.
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gravy wrote:Trump is pretty much overwhelming everything.
I'm sure there's a fart gag in that, but I can't seem to squeeze anything out.
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Was looking forward to the third debate (hoping it's not canceled due to disqualification by drug test) and went to see when it was (19th) and it turns out it's moderated by a Fox News anchor. Isn't that likely to spoil the full effect of a Trump meltdown?
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gumboot wrote:Was looking forward to the third debate (hoping its not canceled due to disqualification by drug test) and went to see when it was (19th) and it turns out it's moderated by a Fox News anchor. Isn't that likely to spoil the full effect of a Trump meltdown?
Fox is not universally peopled by partisan hacks, they have some good people. Politico says of the moderator:
Chris Wallace, the anchor of Fox News Sunday, will moderate the final debate. Wallace is a three-time Emmy Award winning anchor for Fox News Sunday. He's worked for Fox News Channel since 2003 and previously spent 14 years working for ABC News. Wallace has covered almost every major political event for Fox. He's known for his aggressive questioning style of both Democrats and Republicans. In 2016, Wallace conducted an exclusive interview with President Barack Obama, the first one the president did on the channel since 2014. Wallace did previous interviews with Obama in 2008, 2009, and 2013.

He also had a famously testy 2006 interview with Bill Clinton in which he questioned whether the president did enough during his time in office to capture Osama Bin Laden.
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Yeah Fox is pretty awful but it's not all Hannity. Some of Trump's troubles can be traced back to his run in with Fox's Megyn Kelly.

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Murdoch hates Trump and the feeling is mutual. Talk that Trump is planning a rival network won't help either.,
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Ha yeah, he's definitely prepping for that. He know's he's fucked and less than subtly laying out an "ALL MEDIA IS ROTTEN" narrative for the remainder of the race.

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I don't think Megyn Kelly ever liked Trump, but since that incident, it's worth watching clips of her show, as she's not hiding that she thinks he's a disaster and happily roasts the "surrogates" defending him.

My favourite is her reaction at 2:12 onwards.


Unveiled despair at just how much of an idiot the Trump defender is. "Oh good god". This man is a moron.
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KlaxonCow wrote:Unveiled despair at just how much of an idiot the Trump defender is. "Oh good god". This man is a moron.
I think that was meant to be a joke.
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Since we're talking Fox re the 3rd debate... doyen, Bill O'Reilly, had some advice for both candidates on Colbert's 'Late Show'.

Clinton:
“If I’m Secretary Clinton, I ignore Donald Trump”

“If I’m Secretary Clinton, I’m trying to look right into the camera and say, ‘Look, I’m not as bad as they’re portraying me to be. I’m not this dragon-lady. I really want to help you and here’s how I want to help you.'”

“If she spends time on Trump, it just becomes vaudeville.”

Trump:
“Stop whining.”

It seems the Republican candidate has lost Bill O'Reilly... who woulda thunk it.
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Bill O’Reilly is the other Fox News reporter who stands out as not a Trump apologist or fan. The Late Show interview is online and well worth watching as preparation for the final debate.



On the debate it is going to be as interesting as the last two, simply to see what Trump tries. The two debates so far have both been disastrous for him; the first because his performance started his slide in the polls, the second as it did nothing to reverse that trend or undo the damage of his 2005 tape and many sex abuse allegations. So what does he try now?
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More from the same show, which also included an interview with President Obama. Apart from being highly entertaining it also includes the following, a recording of Trump from 2005 (via vox):
Trump wrote:I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone’s getting dressed and everything else. And I’m allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant, and therefore I’m inspecting it. … They’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody okay? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that
Which basically confirms some of the assault complaints against him, as well as confirms his main interest in “investing” in beauty pageants was to give him access to the young women and girls participating in them.
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Final debate tonight. 9pm US time, which is 2am our time. 90 minutes without adverts, the same format as the first debate. Trump of course will be trying to improve on his previous two performances. Hard to believe he can, but should be fun watching him try and fail.
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Hillary is paying gangs of homeless bums to cause ructions at Trump rallies.
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