Playstation VR

[Chontler]

but the new macbook will be out and then the nx?!! ffs. ain't no way I can trick the missus that no the sony hasn't changed, honest.




do they do a white one?

[chub]

I still don't know what VR games are getting a Pro patch though. I assume the more expensive titles will, but haven't seen any mention apart from Farpoint, which isn't out yet anyway.

[RiK]

I've seen a couple of other things VR ...

Ok Istar did ask before, I wasn't sure what to say .. but I am quite sure now .. if you REALLY want the REAL VR experience .. you NEED a PS4 Pro "for real" .. I mean I can say now "I really seen enough" you really NEED the Pro.
...

As it is "I've seen far too much blurrness more than what I want to see", save money, get a Pro then you'll see what VR is really about and what PSVR can really do.

Until then apart few games that manage to pull it correct "what you see is definitely NOT the best you can get", it's ok, but there is more than that can be done when you have more GPU/CPU power at hand.

End of the story, no need to say more.

Hey Giles, don't you think that given you have a game to sell for PSVR, you might not want to put people off from buying one!

[Deckard]

I've seen a couple of other things VR ...

Ok Istar did ask before, I wasn't sure what to say .. but I am quite sure now .. if you REALLY want the REAL VR experience .. you NEED a PS4 Pro "for real" .. I mean I can say now "I really seen enough" you really NEED the Pro.
...

As it is "I've seen far too much blurrness more than what I want to see", save money, get a Pro then you'll see what VR is really about and what PSVR can really do.

Until then apart few games that manage to pull it correct "what you see is definitely NOT the best you can get", it's ok, but there is more than that can be done when you have more GPU/CPU power at hand.

End of the story, no need to say more.

Hey Giles, don't you think that given you have a game to sell for PSVR, you might not want to put people off from buying one!

I think he's in for the long haul - Buying what some might consider a sub-par experience won't be helpful to Sony in the long term. I'd buy a PS4 Pro and PSVR all in pack for 599 quid tomorrow

[Misfit]

Whilst I will buy a pro, right now it's not a sub standard experience and lots of people are having the best gaming experiences they've ever had.

If you already have a ps4 it's worth getting a psvr. If you don't then, as the pro is ony a few weeks away, wait and see what a pro does and how cheap ypu can get an old ps4 from all the upgraders.

A pro isn't going to change the world. Games won't suddenly be photo realistic.

£599?! Considering all the bits you need in that pack would cost around £800 right now that's a prayer for xmas 2017...

[Deckard]

Whilst I will buy a pro, right now it's not a sub standard experience and lots of people are having the best gaming experiences they've ever had.

If you already have a ps4 it's worth getting a psvr. If you don't then, as the pro is ony a few weeks away, wait and see what a pro does and how cheap ypu can get an old ps4 from all the upgraders.

A pro isn't going to change the world. Games won't suddenly be photo realistic.

£599?! Considering all the bits you need in that pack would cost around £800 right now that's a prayer for xmas 2017...

I did say "some might consider" - I can see a fairly quick price drop from Sony a few months after Xmas to help sales....

[fog]

Whilst I will buy a pro, right now it's not a sub standard experience and lots of people are having the best gaming experiences they've ever had.

If you already have a ps4 it's worth getting a psvr. If you don't then, as the pro is ony a few weeks away, wait and see what a pro does and how cheap ypu can get an old ps4 from all the upgraders.

Well said Sir. Whether the experience I'm getting on a standard PS4 is "sub standard" or not, because of PSVR I haven't felt this excited about the future of gaming since the early 80's. And I've got the same child like grin whenever I'm playing.

[gilesgoat]

I've seen a couple of other things VR ...

Ok Istar did ask before, I wasn't sure what to say .. but I am quite sure now .. if you REALLY want the REAL VR experience .. you NEED a PS4 Pro "for real" .. I mean I can say now "I really seen enough" you really NEED the Pro.
...

As it is "I've seen far too much blurrness more than what I want to see", save money, get a Pro then you'll see what VR is really about and what PSVR can really do.

Until then apart few games that manage to pull it correct "what you see is definitely NOT the best you can get", it's ok, but there is more than that can be done when you have more GPU/CPU power at hand.

End of the story, no need to say more.

Hey Giles, don't you think that given you have a game to sell for PSVR, you might not want to put people off from buying one!

OUR GAME IMPLEMENTS "the correct trick" even on THE STANDARD PS4.

It IS possible to be done providing your overall code/graphic requirements are well done ( and not too extremely demanding ).

In fact I can tell you our game is basically the same running in PS4 or Neo ( PS4 Pro ) mode.

That's because "we tuned the whole game" to be like that even on the standard PS4, problem comes if you have something already "heavy" by its own that struggles to get frame rate on standard PS4 when it needs to render for PSVR ( that is a bit like to run 2 games at the same time ).

So worries not our game works PERFECTLY on the Standard PS4 too

[Chirpychicken]

On reddit the devs of holoball have confirmed an end of October or early November release date.

It looks good it is a vector racket ball game with retro graphics.

[Deckard]

It's the N64 Expansion Pak all over again

As an aside what will your game do extra on the ps 4 pro then ?

[Istar]

It's the N64 Expansion Pak all over again

As an aside what will your game do extra on the ps 4 pro then ?

This is the key point for me - I see a two-tier-experience divergence in the making, with games presenting different experiences between Pro and Classic (on standard games as well as PSVR). I almost dropped the £400 on the VR gear last night, but fuck it, Sony have basically introduced a huge dollop of FUD into what was going to be a no-brainer (Morpheus is why I bought a PS4 a year ago).

I'll wait for the New Year 2018 sales now, when Christmas 2017 stocks of Pro+PSVR packs are being cleared.

[gilesgoat]

It's the N64 Expansion Pak all over again

As an aside what will your game do extra on the ps 4 pro then ?

This is the key point for me - I see a two-tier-experience divergence in the making, with games presenting different experiences between Pro and Classic (on standard games as well as PSVR). I almost dropped the £400 on the VR gear last night, but fuck it, Sony have basically introduced a huge dollop of FUD into what was going to be a no-brainer (Morpheus is why I bought a PS4 a year ago).

I'll wait for the New Year 2018 sales now, when Christmas 2017 stocks of Pro+PSVR packs are being cleared.

If you are NOT in a "mega hurry" to wait a bit it's not a bad policy.

The good thing is while "the PS4 may need a change", the PSVR will not, I don't think - could be wrong - they are going to modify that anytime soon.

The reality is this VR I think 'got a bit many of surprise', fact is I think no current gen console is truly up for it, I mean "not to get the most out of it".

I mean look at PCs and what you need, we recently bought a GPU that is almost as much expensive as the whole PS4 and has a power that can smash any console by a factor 20 at least ( NVIDIA GTX 1070 ) on a top of a PC "reasonably priced" and all the rest.

At least the PSVR is still IMHO "the best the best priced VR system", I still believe is technically superior to the other 2 and you can still enjoy stuff with LOT LESS than what you'd need for "A PC VR system", which in all and all talking about something that gets close to 2000 pounds

If you have already a PS4 and you love it and you can put up for "some will be good some will be less good" for some time I think there are still valid reasons to get a PSVR, then maybe one day try to sell the old PS4 and go "Pro", you'll change the PS4 but you'll keep the PSVR.

Best advice "go and look by yourself and see what you want to put up with", if you want "the mega perfection" then Pro is "a must" if you can meanwhile go on for what you get "use the PS4 you have" some stuff is still very good on it.

Problem is I am ULTRA picky ( and HAVE to say "they also MADE me so" - with all those 'requirements' ) and "I can't accept less than .. " because I saw what else can be done.

To be fair and "mega picky" "none of the current systems is yet what one would still like to see", for that, we'll need a "VR gen 2" but it's going to take a while and it's going to cost lot more.

As I said PS4 + PSVR is still the cheapest, one of the best, easier to set up systems can give you quite some fun

The "ultimate world" would be a "mega pumped PC with some super mega GPU and a VR system twice as much as rez of now", but that "hell knows how much will be going to cost and how/who will be going to buy it" and it's still some years away.

Have a look around, try it for yourself first, "worst case scenario" I don't think you'd have difficulties in re-selling away a PSVR should you really be so unsatisfied of it but I can't see the reasons why you should not keep it, give the device is good.

And/or .. you could spend a year while you wait playing Polybius

[gumboot]

But PSVR doesn't do position tracking and still won't on pro, is that right? So it's not "real" VR either way, surely.

[gravy]

It does head translation tracking, much like the Occulus.

[gumboot]

It does head translation tracking, much like the Occulus.

Oh. Hmm. Wonder where I got the idea that it didn't.

OK then, carry on.