Trump

[pogo]

He can try. But he will be incredibly isolated come November 8 if as now seems inevitable Clinton wins. Republicans are only tolerating him now if they need his supporters to get themselves elected to Congress. But after November 8 none of that matters, and they can dump and disown him. He won’t be around in four years and someone else will have to win over his supporters. Or they might at long last realise that’s a dead end and form a new coalition around less extreme, less nativist policies.

What about his hardcore supporters? They were always small in number, and once he exits the scene (for some new TV venture to challenge Fox) they will lose focus and go back to whatever they were doing before. That will include the alt-right nutjobs who were there before. They will go from spouting racist hate about Obama to misogynist hate about Clinton, but without Trump occasionally retweeting their nonsense they will repeat to the fringe.

[gumboot]

Trumpers may be few, but they're loud.

Given how unpopular Clinton is, I can see this being a one-term presidency (to the point that I wonder if she shouldn't be the Democrat candidate next time -- I'd appeal to precedent, but they all seem to have flown out the window). The next election should be a walkover iff the GOP don't pick Trump again. Can they manage that?

[pogo]

I agree about it probably being a one term presidency. It’s a hard job to do much in at the best of times, and with Republicans still obstructing her she could get little done. Even if she is still popular she might not want a second term. It’s often forgotten as Trump and Sanders were older but if elected she will be the oldest elected after Reagan.

And Democrats might not want her for a second term. She sort of won by default this time: no-one seriously challenged her. But that was partly as some looked at the race and thought they could not beat her money and the establishment behind her. That might not happen four years from now. Lots of time for someone to come to national prominence such as a senator, like Elizabeth Warren, or a state governor.

Finally Republicans could at long last realise they cannot win by just appealing to white high-school educated males. They need to attract minorities, women, and those with college educations. It‘s still a mostly centre-right country.

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Fred Flintstone repeating his usual pattern talking at a charity raiser both he and Clinton attended.

Started out with some okay jokey jokes but eventually alienates the audience to the point where he's being openly booed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... ea3d869d9b

Curiously throws his wife under the bus part way through

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This is both funny and terrifying in equal parts

https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/v ... f=NEWSFEED

[Cloudane]

But it is sad that even women themselves are repeating shite like "women have hormones, they'd start a war in 10 seconds. BOOM!"



Random thought: what if Trump is actually a hero, ruining his own reputation so he can expose the worst of the worst for what they are? I mean, it's so barmy it's hard to believe it's real!

[gumboot]

Fred Flintstone repeating his usual pattern talking at a charity raiser both he and Clinton attended.

Started out with some okay jokey jokes but eventually alienates the audience to the point where he's being openly booed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... a3d869d9b
Curiously throws his wife under the bus part way through

Some of Clinton's jokes had a bit of a rough landing, too. She got some boos.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hil ... ea3d869a80

I think (hope) we must be close to a point where she might want to ease up to avoid looking like a bad winner.

[pogo]

This is from the end of the last debate. I think the question was “so how was that for you, Donald?”.

A man who should not be left near sharp objects, never mind not be trusted with nuclear weapons.

[KlaxonCow]

Some of Clinton's jokes had a bit of a rough landing, too. She got some boos.

I don't know. It was mostly more like "ooh, that's close to the bone" groaning. Typical of the American tradition of "roasting" others.

And the real difference is that she's just so much better at it.

When her "rigged" joke didn't land at all - silence - she quickly switched to "it's great to see you all here [insert a bit of arse kissing about the event and the guy that it's memorialising here, but which you can get away with later as just being the setup for the coming punchline, in "tension and release" joke-telling fashion] and I call you my basket of adorables", in order to bring everyone back on side and keep the momentum going.

She's smarter than Trump - I'm pretty sure that she had that little self-depreciating joke kept to one side, as her little hammer to break the glass in case of emergency. Trump just lost them and doesn't have the smarts or spontaneity to turn it back around, so once his jokes started landing badly, it turned into an ordeal of embarrassment, as he just kept going while everyone was thinking "someone please stop him, this is just getting embarrassing now".

Also, bottom line, Hillary's jokes were way funnier. Game, set and match for all four of these debates.

[Cloudane]

To steal one from reddit:

Donald Trump is visiting a elementary school and he visits one of the classes. They are in the middle of a discussion related to words and their meanings. The teacher asks Mr Trump if he would like to lead the discussion of the word "tragedy." So he asks the class for an example of a tragedy. One little boy stands up and offers: "If my best friend who lives on a farm, is playing in the field and a runaway tractor comes along and knocks him dead, that would be a tragedy." "No," says Mr Trump, "that would be an accident." A little girl raises her hand: "If a school bus carrying 50 children drove over a cliff, killing everyone inside, that would be a tragedy." "I'm afraid not," explains the exalted businessman. "That's what we would call a great loss." The room goes silent. No other children volunteer. Mr Trump searches the room. "Isn't there someone here who can give me an example of a tragedy?" Finally at the back of the room, little Johnny raises his hand. In a quiet voice he says: "If a private jet carrying you was struck by a missile and blown to smithereens, that would be a tragedy." "Fantastic!" exclaims Mr Trump, "That's right. And can you tell me why that would be a tragedy?" "Well," says the boy, "because it sure as hell wouldn't be a great loss and it probably wouldn't be an accident either."

[IronGiant]

[pogo]

New Clinton ad:

Powerful and effective. You might ask why they are running this now, with the election effectively over. Partly as the advertising time for it might have been booked weeks or months ago. But mostly it‘s far from over. Polls could be wrong, any number of events between now and election day could upset predictions.

Also even if Clinton is a dead cert the Senate is more finely balanced, and anything she can do to help Democratic candidates there is worth it. Attacking Trump should damage Republicans closely associated with him, as well as the Republican party brand in general.

Finally the better her win the more of a mandate she has. The more states she wins the easier it is for her to claim she is president of the whole country, not just the blue half of it. And that is needed more than ever with the country so divided.

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Wow Hitlery Cunton having a petit mal seizure live hsocking!

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That’s from how many months ago? I’m sure it’s been posted before but can’t be bothered looking. The interesting bit is Republicans tried to make something of it, suggesting she was not up to it, perhaps too frail, perhaps with undisclosed medical problems. So she released her medical records and Trump didn’t. Even that didn’t end it. But the debates did.

Clinton was energetic, alert, and put in excellent performances at all three. Trump started off well but visibly tired throughout each debate, often appeared listless and bored, and spent at least two of them sniffing with some chronic condition. Then of course Trump did this:

Complimented her for being a fighter, never giving up. Exactly the opposite of being too old, frail or tired. He stopped going on about her health after that.

Except before the third debate he suggested they take a drugs test. Now it was not that she was too weak but that she was so good she must be on something? No-one took that seriously so I don’t think we ever found out what drug he thought she was on. She had the perfect reply to it in her Al Smith speech:

[tufty]

Wow Hitlery Cunton having a petit mal seizure live hsocking!

TLDW can you link to just the seizure, preferably repeated many times in slow motion, with music. About 10 seconds long should do the trick, doesn't take long to wank myself into a frenzy