Fool me, this is real good shit ! [the VR thread]

[Misfit]

Worth it, or wait for the next phase? Or is PSVR still a better prospect?

Not sure PSVR is a better prospect, but it's certainly an easier one as you have far less to worry about in terms of setup and differing specs.

I got and quickly sold my Rift CV1 without opening it. I decided to go with PSVR for now and see what generation 2 of the kit brings on the PC front.

[fog]

Oculus dropped the price yesterday in order to better compete with PSVR (which has apparently sold through 900,000 units, much more than I would have expected this early to be honest).

From what I've read, sales figures for the PSVR would be a lot higher if it wasn't sold out in most places, with new stock disappearing in hours.

Sony seems to have underestimated demand majorly. People are sold on it by trying it at demo kiosks or through friends, but 3 months after launch are still unable to buy one. They've really screwed up.

[Jamesac]

To be fair to Sony, I'm sure they must have seen the Rift/Vive numbers and planned accordingly. It's hard not to screw up when all the data says things are different than they turn out to be.

I'd go for the cheaper Rift, but it might be worth waiting for Rift V.2. The new cheaper price is nice and there's no telling when and with what features the next revision hits with, but the current version and its controllers are still very nice. Honestly, it's a tough call, but it's not hard to guess Rift V.2 will cost more.

[Bod]

Lovely free game just dropped into Oculus Home for anyone who has already got the touch controllers.

[gilesgoat]

"Stupid question" but really SERIOUS .. "is Vive still alive or is it dead ?" .. is anyone actually buying/using it ?

Not to mention "what about all the other VR systems supposedly coming out" ?

Once I TRIED to have a look at the VIVE SDK/how it works .. admittedly "trying to have a quick look WITHOUT having bought a VIVE first" led me almost to "nothing", the only thing I understood is that "supposedly" that thing is made over some OpenGL "framework" of some sort.

And that's more or less where it all ended, I TRIED to understand something about this "fantastic" OpenVR only to figure out it was a heck of a mess and did not support OR properly.

But honestly asking myself "If it's really worth a penny" to buy a ( too much expensive ) VIVE and spend time trying to develop for it, not knowing at all which one is the target user base and who would ever buy some game for it.

I continue to hear "voices" that "at some point a DirectVR" stuff ( probably from MS ) should/could come out but so far it's only "voices".

As far as I know "PSVR and OR" are the only two things that people really use/buy ?

[Darkflame]

I know someone that tried a Vive. Said it was very good - especially the controllers.

As for other stuff, theres been those 4 announced Windows holographic headsets. Which are basically VR but with the optional of video-based AR and inside-out head tracking. Probably a fair way off though.

[gilesgoat]

I know someone that tried a Vive. Said it was very good - especially the controllers.

As for other stuff, theres been those 4 announced Windows holographic headsets. Which are basically VR but with the optional of video-based AR and inside-out head tracking. Probably a fair way off though.

I tried one as well .. TWICE .. and NNnnNNngh .. "especially the controllers" .. I'd dare to say "that's maybe the best part" because the way I remember it was "can't really see the difference with OR" and I got the impression the visual field you look into is even smaller than OR

I mean it was OK but not "that much different from OR".

What really was "WOW YOU NEED A WHOLE ROOM FOR IT" it was the setup that even "in optimal conditions" seemed to have some little problems.

For example definitely something I could NEVER use in this room and maybe nor even in the barn, I mean literally "or you have a whole room for it or you really don't set it up".

[KlaxonCow]

Well, they call it "room scale" perhaps as deliberate "expectation management", so that you realise that you do need a whole room of space for it.

[Harlequin]

Well, they call it "room scale" perhaps as deliberate "expectation management", so that you realise that you do need a whole room of space for it.

A room in a typical USAmerican house or a room in an average British flat?

[Jamesac]

"Stupid question" but really SERIOUS .. "is Vive still alive or is it dead ?" .. is anyone actually buying/using it ?

There are two realistic target VR systems at the moment- Vive and Rift. Vive actually appears to have sold more units but Rift tends to get the press. With the recent Rift price cut I can't say if the sales gap will stay open, though. It's a pain but supporting both systems it probably necessary.

[Darkflame]

Bit old now, but lightfield capture used to make photoreal viewpoints for the rift.

https://youtu.be/pyJUg-ja0cg

(obvious the Rift cant output lightfields, but the lightfield capture is used to reconstruct 360*360 and some lateral displacement for head-tracked output)

[zbandito]

http://www.roadtovr.com/first-all-in-on ... n-2h-2017/

Where's the headlights?

[zbandito]

Spoiler: show

There's a better graphic around somewhere, of this middleware or some other, but I can't seem to find it.
http://www.middlevr.com/middlevr-for-un ... omparison/

Can we rename this topic to Fool me, real good [VR]? The Vive thread gets lost in the shuffle, and there are only more headsets on the horizon. Seems like Rift exclusives could get their own thread while this thread is already all over the map...

[Rhythm]

Is the Oculus Touch price drop official? They're currently £99 at Currys

[Rhythm]

"Stupid question" but really SERIOUS .. "is Vive still alive or is it dead ?" .. is anyone actually buying/using it ?

There are two realistic target VR systems at the moment- Vive and Rift. Vive actually appears to have sold more units but Rift tends to get the press. With the recent Rift price cut I can't say if the sales gap will stay open, though. It's a pain but supporting both systems it probably necessary.

Have we had any stats on the performance capabilities of the Windows Holographic headsets? If they can provide basic VR UI to "low level" users whilst still having high enough refresh/track/resolution to cater for gamers then we may see that family of headsets take off. The Lenovo one is targeted at around £300, doesn't need external sensors and has a family-friendly "lift-up" screen/visor. Will be interesting to see what, if anything, Microsoft can add to VR