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snaff wrote:The economic collapse may finally be habbeding. Or they might prop up the mess for another ten years of zombie finance misery and real wealth destruction.

I don't know why the Trump haters don't make more out of his support for the stock market bubble, and the everything-bubble more generally. It's a perfect opportunity to be critical of him while doing a public service of promoting some economic common sense.
The analysts are saying it's an "adjustment" that was overdue. In reality they are shitting themselves the Federal Reserve will rapidly increase interest rates to stave off inflation leading to a new wave of mortgage defaulting and bad banks...
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“They were like death and un-American” - what does that even mean?

He also apparently claimed that his State of the Union address got the highest ratings ever. This is, of course, as true as most Trump "facts".
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F-ZeroOne wrote:“They were like death and un-American” - what does that even mean?
It is probably treasonous and the penalty for treason in the U.S. is death.

Republicans not applauding Obama in the same circumstances, however, was fully American and non-treasonous because, back in those days, the President was not the Supreme and Beloved Ruler of the Democratic Republic. Plus his hands were too big.
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F-ZeroOne wrote:“They were like death and un-American” - what does that even mean?
That the President is refusing to award the Grim Reaper his green card?

As his betrothal to Madame Liberty, in the perpetual war that America insists upon waging, is clearly a sham marriage, purely for tax purposes.

Or perhaps Trump is quoting the poets, for is not death the ultimate "foreign land" to which we must all, one day, venture?

Nah, he's just an idiot and is talking his usual meaningless nonsense, I'm afraid.
Harlequin wrote:Republicans not applauding Obama in the same circumstances, however, was fully American and non-treasonous because, back in those days, the President was not the Supreme and Beloved Ruler of the Democratic Republic. Plus his hands were too big.
No, no, that was perfectly American.

Because, you see, the sheriff was a ni... *bong* I said, the sheriff was a ni... *bong*



And what's more American than a bit of institutionalised casual racism, eh?
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KlaxonCow wrote:
Harlequin wrote:… Plus his hands were too big.
No, no, that was perfectly American.

Because, you see, the sheriff was a ni... *bong* I said, the sheriff was a ni... *bong*

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And what's more American than a bit of institutionalised casual racism, eh?
I did not wish to be so blatant, so I employed a euphemism.
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"Unfortunately, we do not have a commander in chief right now as much as have a wannabe banana republic strongman."

"Cool. Just like in North Korea and Russia. But what do we do about those traitors who don’t clap during our Dear Leader’s speech?"

Donald Trump orders Pentagon to plan grand military parade.
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Very North Korean... or could we say... very Russian as well...?! :twisted:

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Harlequin wrote:"Unfortunately, we do not have a commander in chief right now as much as have a wannabe banana republic strongman."

"Cool. Just like in North Korea and Russia. But what do we do about those traitors who don’t clap during our Dear Leader’s speech?"

Donald Trump orders Pentagon to plan grand military parade.

Macron invited Trump over to the parade last time now Trump wants one too. :roll:
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So, Trump looking absolutely mental agian in his post-school massacre speech



Something in his body language here, he just doesn't give a flying fuck for the victims.

Also - it is specifically mental health issues that are the problem here. The cause of this 19th USA school massacre so far in 2018.

Definitely not guns. Shhh!
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The Onion has it spot on
In the hours following a violent rampage in Florida in which a lone attacker killed 17 individuals and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Indiana resident Harold Turner, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
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Deckard wrote:The Onion has it spot on
In the hours following a violent rampage in Florida in which a lone attacker killed 17 individuals and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Wednesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Indiana resident Harold Turner, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this individual from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what they really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past eight years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
I think overall it all boils simply down to this :

"When a country is totally based on a logic of profit and expansion that's what happens"

"Corollary : 'whatever makes the most money in any way is good' "

Which fundamentally means "A country totally based on a capitalism system is doomed to have those kind of problems" I mean "pure capitalism at max" DOES NOT WORK, IT'S A WRONG SYSTEM.

There are various situations where "the best choice that makes things work better for EVERYONE" could NOT be the one that makes more profit ( for some ) .

So yes "limitation of possession of guns and more control" surely would bring a hit in guns/bullets sales .. but .. you'd increase a lot safety of people.

Sure Nationalization and control by state of services like power, health care and such and imposition of certain taxes "could be a bit less economical/profitable ( again for SOME, never for ALL )" but overall would give much more access to benefits to larger people.

It's the usual story "the system as it is NEEDS to be SERIOUSLY MODIFIED", that would make "quite some of that elite quite a bit - but not extremely - LESS RICH .. maybe there will really be 'less richness to be reached' BUT overall LOT MORE PEOPLE would be lot better".

But the moment you say "less richness" .. "control" .. etc. .. Americans ( some ) go FULLY BANANEZ.

SAME STORY OVER AND OVER ..

They are never going to change .. "YES is UNavoidable" ( because of this mentality ) MORE people are going to DIE .. "because it's the way the American system works" ...
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Even if we accept the excuse that it's a mental health issue, then where's the action on improving America's mental health, then?

Why, if only they had a healthcare system that could universally deal with mental health issues, in order to put it at the forefront of their agenda, to prevent this sort of "mental health issue" from happening.

It's bloody obvious that this is just a hand-waving excuse. Because if they genuinely believed this to be a mental health issue then they'd be determined to do something to improve mental health provision in the nation, right?

But they don't just do fuck all about that. They actually actively undo it. Repeal healthcare. Let the most expensive healthcare system on the planet get even more expensive, so even fewer people can afford to see a mental health practitioner, much less afford the ongoing medications they might need to bring their mental health issues under some sort of control.

It's one of those bizarre things human beings do. They say shit directly to your face that everyone knows full well that none of them actually believe. Not really.

Cognitive dissonance. Because, on a gut instinctive level, they do convince themselves to kind of believe it, on some level, even if they intellectually know that it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever should they ever stop to think about it.
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All of the above, but why is it schools?

Workplaces there was one, definitely terrorist related.

Colleges, University level, it doesn't seem to happen either.

Are our schools better, or is it just that we don't have guns?

Schools are functionally both creches and educational, but society isn't dealing with people who fail at being educated, and schools are aimed at educating the elite, so they are failing as creches for the lower end of the capability spectrum.
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Maybe less mental health care is the answer. American children are all doped up on SSRIs and prescription amphetamines to counter their shitty diets. SSRIs may be linked to murderous behaviour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... -thoughts/
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snaff wrote:Maybe less mental health care is the answer. American children are all doped up on SSRIs and prescription amphetamines to counter their shitty diets. SSRIs may be linked to murderous behaviour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... -thoughts/
Aren't college students all busy with "stacking" i.e. feeding themselves cocktails of amphetamines, brain enhancing drugs, mood stabilizers and shit like that :?: :!:

May at that time they already got so many drugs they are already far too smashed ...

Then if they manage to become CEO or sorta they'll get hooked on cocaine ..

Finally IF they manage to get a bit older they'll start to have shit and get hooked on painkillers and oxicodone :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

OR they may end up the path of depression/antiderpressants Prozac Nation ..

OR they may end up really in shit in the way of crack / ero / meth ...

You see .. "there's a system at work here" ... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :roll:
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