What the fuck is Russia upto?

[Absolute_Zero]

US: We want to put up a useless missile shield in Europe
Russia: Not on our doorstep. We will point our nukes at Europe again if you do that shit.
US: It's not to protect against you. It's to protect against Iran.
Iran: But our missiles can't even reach Europe LOL


JohnC

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile

[Kon-Tiki]

Something I've been wondering about...

1) US puts up anti-missile shield in Europe
2) As reaction, Russia shoots missiles at Europe
...
...
I dunno why, but step 2 seems useless, what with that anti-missile shield there.

[Duck Turkin]

It might even be worth pissing off Russia if it weren't for the fact that the supposed Missile Shield doesn't even work properly yet. Secondly, IIRC they are installing only a few missiles in Eastern Europe which wouldn't be of any consequence in an all out nuke-fest should Russia want one. Thirdly Iran or any other nuclear-armed terrorists are more likely to blow up a bomb in situ than use expensive and technologically advanced weapon delivery systems.

Sounds more like the US government is pandering to defence lobbyists and has found an excuse to pay even more obscene amounts of cash to an already bloated defence industry.

This deserves a .

[BBC-B Get'in'mah'bell-E]

There’s this theory; I remember reading about it when looking into the SETI project. It was a proposal as to why no signals from intelligent extra-solar civilisations have been detected.

It goes like this: an advanced civilisation of some sort discovers the electron, this brings about greater technological capability to the civilisation and they get cool stuff like radio and telly for n years/generations/what’ever. The knowledge gained from learning of the electron leads on to knowledge of the atom and then on to atomic power and weapons. Due to the fact that life forms and grows via evolution (fuck off Creationists) and the prime mechanic of evolution is competition, all civilisations will be in competition with others. Societies fighting for dominance over x resources or other civilisations (which may be seen as resources to the combatants) is to all our current knowledge to mean - war. When fighting a war; the competitive drive could lead to the rather pointless and irrational use of nuclear weapons – bringing about either, end of all life on the planet or at least; return to the stone-age for all inhabitants of the planet.

This scientist put this forward as a ~ possible ~ explanation. The rule being life evolves to a point and then as a law of the universe annihilates itself. So if you look at it this way, don’t worry about it – we’re pretty much at that point anyway!

[Deckard]

Bump -


WTF is Russia up to again ? Trying to assassinate at least one of their ex citizens here and also injuring his daughter and a uk police officer !

[(o)(o)]

I read Putin has launched a public campaign voting for the naming of the latest nuclear missile.

" Nukey McNukeFace"

[zip accident]

So long as they don't get all the way back to the Berlin Wall, then it's progress innit.

More seriously, they seem to be heading toward a president for life situation, maybe a ruling dynasty in time. China seems to be aiming in the same direction, which is going to look odd for professed communists.

[PFVA]

The gentleman was a double spy, a Russian citizen with an important job that was spying on behalf of the UK. He then moved over. I don't think is uncommon Russia killing the Russians who do that, even if they are no longer Russian citizens. And i believe our side used to that too if given a chance. And i think those who do that know what they are risking when they do it too.

What's more unusual in the Russians is the method they use to kill those spies nowadays.

[Deckard]

Yeah a method which could have easily killed a lot of British ‘civilians’

[gilesgoat]

What's SO interesting in UK worth spying for the Russians

[Dio]

The method point is an important one. There are some suspicions of Russian involvement in at least another ten UK assassinations in recent years, but all of those appear to have been done on the quiet and in some of these cases there are signs that the UK government has also taken actions to keep it quiet (sealed files, etc).

That wasn't possible in either this or the Litvinenko case because of the use of methods which need very obvious, public cleanup work, have a significant possibility of collateral damage, and aren't readily accessible to non-nation-state actors. It's not by any means a deniable operation, and that's surely known by everyone involved.

[Space Cowboy]

The method point is an important one ... and aren't readily accessible to non-nation-state actors. It's not by any means a deniable operation, and that's surely known by everyone involved.

I suspect this is a feature of the method used, rather than an undesirable consequence. In that light it looks like a situation that is being escalated and has me wondering what the UK has been up to to provoke these kind of actions.

[TFO]

In that light it looks like a situation that is being escalated and has me wondering what the UK has been up to to provoke these kind of actions.

Nothing.
Mother Russia does not treat ex-foreign double-agents well, even those who have been "pardoned". They leave it a few years, pick their time, place and method, and then deny all involvement. Zero fucks given.

[Dio]

Russian state TV:

“Don’t choose England as a place to live. Whatever the reasons, whether you’re a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don’t move to England,” presenter Kirill Kleymenov said during a news programme on Channel One, state TV’s flagship station.

“Something is not right there. Maybe it’s the climate. But in recent years there have been too many strange incidents with a grave outcome. People get hanged, poisoned, they die in helicopter crashes and fall out of windows in industrial quantities,” Kleymenov said.

[gilesgoat]

Russian state TV:

“Don’t choose England as a place to live. Whatever the reasons, whether you’re a professional traitor to the motherland or you just hate your country in your spare time, I repeat, no matter, don’t move to England,” presenter Kirill Kleymenov said during a news programme on Channel One, state TV’s flagship station.

“Something is not right there. Maybe it’s the climate. But in recent years there have been too many strange incidents with a grave outcome. People get hanged, poisoned, they die in helicopter crashes and fall out of windows in industrial quantities,” Kleymenov said.

BUT OF COURSE !!!!!!!!!!!

You have Theresa May , David Cameron, Boris Johnson, the BNP, the tories !!!!!!!!!

"Don’t choose England as a place to live" .. it's not the climate or else .. those people all committed suicide

[edit] - but even if you could choose "Where to live" WHERE ON EARTH would you go to live in that is "so better"