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Wouldn't surprise me. Russia has a policy of confusion and disruption. Diplomatic terrorism, if you like.
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If they didn't develop them there wouldn't be any reason to make the mountain collapse. I'm quite convinced that it was sabotage that did it. The South Koreans, Japan, China, or the US, even Russia infiltrated the Nuclear Program, or all of them in cooperation, and derailed it with a small, or not so small explosion. After all North Korea playing around with nuclear weapons is not a confortable thing for all its neighbours independently of how often they may disagree in betweeen themselves.

Most likely they not just buried the labs and the material, and weapons but also the scientists and technicians that were developping the Program.


It reminds me a bit of that plane carrying Israel's nuclear scientists that was accidentally shot by a missile coming from the Ukraine a few years ago.

As for Russia selling stuff there was a lot of talk that after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the 1990s a lot of their scientists, not just Russians but from the other Soviet Republics, went private selling their services to countries that would pay for them.
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A proper summit has a joint communique, signed by those involved and setting out the formal agreements.

Trump disowned the G7 communique via Twitter.

There was NO communique from the Singapore summit. Some of the concessions Trump made had not even been discussed with his own Government and military. He announced an end to joint US-South Korean military manoeuvres- without telling his own Generals or the South Koreans.

Trump basically just appeased Kim Jong-Un, gave North Korea back its place in international politics and rewarded him for his missile tests.
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Hey, hes the genius, right? So he must know what hes doing...

The idea that Russia supplied the nuclear weapons is an interesting one, but my (admittedly limited) understanding is that radioactive materials have telltale "clues" (in some cases, apparently, you can tell the reactor they were made in) so there would be a risk of a major international scandal there. Of course, this would be talking about a regime which very likely carried out a chemical warfare attack in a major British city recently...

PFVA, you also have another interesting idea but I suspect what you should suggest would be - putting it mildly - very difficult to carry out.
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merman wrote:Trump basically just appeased Kim Jong-Un, gave North Korea back its place in international politics and rewarded him for his missile tests.
Good, innit?

I wonder what message that sends to Iran.
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Something about jail something crooked something?

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They all do it, have done it, and will continue to do it. Yet only really Hillary has been lambasted for it.
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Only one of them has lost an election because of it
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gravy wrote:Only one of them has lost an election because of it
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Apparently Mr. Trump is a bit irritated that his single-handed efforts to achieve universal peace and harmony aren't being recognised for the amazing triumph he proclaims they are.
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The Grauniad wrote:“He speaks and his people sit up at attention,” Trump said. “I want my people to do the same.”
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The Trump-Kim summit has been widely criticised in the US, in most part for the failure to secure written commitment to North Korean denuclearisation, which the Trump administration has repeatedly demanded. Trump told Fox on Friday “it’s in the agreement, it says ‘he will denuclearise’” after a summit from which “we get everything”. Sanctions on North Korea would be “off when we’re sure there’s no more nuclear”, he said.

In fact, the agreement says only that North Korea “commits to work towards complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula”.…

Asked about his reluctance to criticise Kim’s human rights record, he said: “You know why? Because I don’t want to see a nuclear weapon to destroy you and your family.”

Trump also told Fox of his request for the return of remains of “probably 7,500” US soldiers killed in the Korean war, which he claimed was already producing results. He said again that “parents” of such soldiers had appealed to him.

The Korean war took place between 1950 and 1953, which would make the survival of any parents of soldiers killed in the war highly unlikely.
Could those parents possibly be the same people he keeps insisting are saying stuff that, coincidentally, he also personally wants other people to believe?
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A little back-of-envelope math, which is clearly beyond the rotund orange one, to satisfy myself about the constant lies that sack of crap spews.

So 1953 was 65 years ago. Assuming 18 years old to be in the armed forces, and assuming 18 years old to start having children, any parents involved would be, at minimum, 101 years old. How many of those sets of parents do you think would be begging Trump to return their kids' remains? I'd be willing to be the answer is none.
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everklear wrote:A little back-of-envelope math, which is clearly beyond the rotund orange one, to satisfy myself about the constant lies that sack of crap spews.

So 1953 was 65 years ago. Assuming 18 years old to be in the armed forces, and assuming 18 years old to start having children, any parents involved would be, at minimum, 101 years old. How many of those sets of parents do you think would be begging Trump to return their kids' remains? I'd be willing to be the answer is none.
Parents probably not many, though there might be one or two, but relatives in general? probably enough.
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Just thinking, has anyone thought of asking Stormy Daniels to confirm / deny "small hands" rumours?
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