Tempest 4000 - YES! YES! YES!

[korruptor]

Yeah, they were interesting. MOAR

[gilesgoat]

Yeah, they were interesting. MOAR

See that's the point, the Codemotion guys as well as those from Wired Magazine Italy already said "we want more of you next year" and some other places as well ...

At this rate we are going to be "more requested" in Italy than UK

.. and Singapore ..

.. and Poland ..

.. and other places ..


And yes that place is not "super expensive" YET not "super cheap" as well it's not exactly stuff you get lightly out of the pockets but at the same time we already been asked to come in two other places ...

[oxo]

So I have disc copies of 4000 for xbox and PS4 preordered from Amazon.com
Release date now put back to July 17th.
Is this ever going to get released.
SO SO SO SO frustrating.

[gilesgoat]

So I have disc copies of 4000 for xbox and PS4 preordered from Amazon.com
Release date now put back to July 17th.
Is this ever going to get released.
SO SO SO SO frustrating.

.. if you think you have hard time and frustration waiting for it to come out .. you have no idea ( and I cannot tell you ) how much we , Atari, all of us are working getting mad/paranoid to make that happen ...

Life is NOT easy at all, that's all I can say but I can guarantee you that NOBODY here is wasting time or staying flipping thumbs or making things wait 'just because' ..

"It will come" at least "it does exist, it's NOT a myth"

[skab]

hear the hum of 100 hz

What is this "100 Hz" devilry you are talking about?

[PVB]

.. if you think you have hard time and frustration waiting for it to come out .. you have no idea ( and I cannot tell you ) how much we , Atari, all of us are working getting mad/paranoid to make that happen ...

Life is NOT easy at all, that's all I can say but I can guarantee you that NOBODY here is wasting time or staying flipping thumbs or making things wait 'just because' ..

"It will come" at least "it does exist, it's NOT a myth"

Does that mean you’re still working on the Xbox/other version(s)?

[Harlequin]

Does that mean you’re still working on the Xbox/other version(s)?

The Xbox build that everyone hopes will be the final one was submitted to cert a few days ago. The PS4 and Windows versions were finished long, long ago.

[Markie]

So I have disc copies of 4000 for xbox and PS4 preordered from Amazon.com
Release date now put back to July 17th.
Is this ever going to get released.
SO SO SO SO frustrating.

Nothing on Amazon UK

[gilesgoat]

I just dare to say that all that is happening here is "absolutely normal" and "nothing particularly weird happening".

EXCEPT, I may say "the only thing I don't fully understand" is "why promising dates without being 100% sure that's going to happen".

From my point of view "usual technical crap" or better to say "people pedantically doing their jobs by the letter/book inspecting the very tiny details nobody will ever care but them" ( or sorta ) maybe because we live in times where a poor child could be psychologically scarred for life and a company sued for gazillions if a icon was 7 pixels more to the left than what it should have been I don't know, I did not make all this but someone else did and it's the world we are living in ...

Yes it's frustrating for you to wait, but it's 100 times more frustrating for all of us involved in all this just doing the best to make all this stuff "come out to you"

Let's say "keep all this in mind as a lesson about how HARD - and it KEEPS GETTING HARDER - is to push out something in the market".

Political correctness gone mad .. lawyers ready to jump you all over the places .. technicalities that get more and more complex because more and more things get added .. "games" that are no longer just "games" but contain or HAVE to contain "a lot of other things it appears some people are asking for" .. rules over rules, procedures over procedures, don't-want-to-be-responsible-for-this, don't-want-to-be-responsible-for-that ...

... proper nightmare ..

And then I don't know .. "throw in the mix" "strange politics" ( we did not make them ) there and there as in "you can't do this if you do that" or "if you do this you have do to that" .. etc.

You really have "the easiest part in all this" because it's out, you click a button you buy it and you download it, or even better "you go to a store you get home with something"

There's SO much nightmare and work to get there you have absolutely NO IDEA.

We really live in a MUCH TOO COMPLEX world that does not get easier at all, writing a game/code/etc. is really maybe 50% of it, but there's a very hard 50% of rest to deal with that is NO easier/less time consuming than the previous 50%.

And then if you start putting "more people in the mix" to do this and that, you see why making games costs more and more.

Anyway .. it's coming out .. "it's all normal", "it's all go", "it's all it's just the way it is and there's no way to change the way it is".

It's worth the wait anyway, trust me

I repeat it's a ( very ) complex world we are living in, that's the problem.

[PVB]

Does that mean you’re still working on the Xbox/other version(s)?

The Xbox build that everyone hopes will be the final one was submitted to cert a few days ago. The PS4 and Windows versions were finished long, long ago.

I won’t hold my breath for the release date yet then.

[ozzzy189]

Poor Giles, the guy sounds burnt out, and all we're doing is whingeing (nicely), about it not being available yet.
I've just bought jamestown+ (£3.29)and ghost blade HD. Both brilliant. I shall purchase the new tempest as soon as its available because you're nice guys and I'm a nice guy too. I might play it a bit as well.
Regards
Daniel

[Deckard]

Aye fair play as almost a year ago this thread started...

[buddh4sack]

As a professional coder myself, I very much appreciate (and empathize with) everything Giles shares about the development process. I'm feeling patient, because Polybius, Space Giraffe and TxK are there for me.

Just curious, does it matter at all to Llamasoft which platform(s) I buy it for? I'm looking at PS4 and/or PC, and I'm guessing if VR support ever comes, it will come to PC first, since it has the least hurdles? I bought Space Giraffe for X360 and PC because I love the game so much and want to support you guys, but does buying multiple copies put more money in your pockets? (sorry if this is too personal a question).

Love you guys and just want to do whatever helps you put out more stuff.

[Jamesac]

I just dare to say that all that is happening here is "absolutely normal" and "nothing particularly weird happening".

EXCEPT, I may say "the only thing I don't fully understand" is "why promising dates without being 100% sure that's going to happen".

Hi, I can answer that thanks to having worked gaming retail many years ago. Basically the system needs a date for a game to show up, unlike Steam where you can just specify "summer 2018" or something more general. What companies do is put best-guess dates on things, and adjust as necessary if things go wrong. A game only very rarely ships early but release-date adjustments are fairly standard for smaller publishers. This is as true for Natsume, NiSA, Atlus, and others as it is for Atari. I remember a PS2 game I was looking forward to called Chulip that got bumped through the schedule for 3 years before release, and don't even get me started on Lunar 2 for the Sega CD. It's frustrating, sure, but also fairly normal. Seeing as Atari wants the digital and physical editions of Tempest 4000 to release side-by-side on all consoles, this was bound to happen.

Sorry about the stress, though. Good luck on what I hope is your final submission!

[Harlequin]

How long before (hopeful) release do dates have to be announced? Ten days or four months, for example?