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WiteWulf wrote:Oh, don't get me started on MS's fixation with multiplayer. It's one of the reasons I went Playstation this gen (and likely will next) because of Sony's commitment to strong single player titles.
Indeed... drives Xbox Live subs... Most of the MS games these days are multiplayer focused. Take Forza Horizon 4 for example... love driving games but all the muliplayer stuff that comes up is ridiculous you can ignore it of course but its still baked in there. As are silly costumes, different horns etc for the cars. But that's what new gamers seem to want. The DLC... used to unlock it all for free back in the day... :D

Sound like a grumbly old gamer here.... :D
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Yeah...as my lad gets older and gets into gaming more it's odd seeing the stuff he's gravitating towards (Fortnite, Minecraft and Terraria, but he's pestering me for Apex Legends and Realm Royale). It's *all* driven whatever the eejits on YouTube are promoting on any given week. The amount of money changing hands for that high level promotion must be absolutely insane.

I try to encourage him to play some more cerebral problem solving, adventuring, single player games but whenever he does it's only 10 minutes before one of his mates comes online and starts pestering him to join a sodding Fortnite party. The social aspect of those games is intoxicating.
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:) The curse of Fortnite eh! Same with the youngest.

Think the network connections need to be severed for a couple of hours sometimes to let them explore other types of games.
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M eldest has left home, and he's pretty much a PC gamer (25 years old) playing mostly Steam games - Doom, Elder Scrolls, Fallout et al. I brought him up right. The youngest however is 7 now, and a total nut for Minecraft. We do play MP in there, but only on our own LAN server in creative mode. It's fun, but I'm dreading him getting into stuff like Fortnite - I just can't get into that kind of thing these days.
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Fortnite is like a bloody drug
Freebie entry with oodles of temptation to spend just a little extra, here, there and everywhere. While in some respects it isn’t much different to collecting panini cards (if you are old enough to remember them) though without the swapping option with friends. I got fed up with son spending birthday, pocket money or Christmas presents I sat him down and totalled the spend on it. Once I did he stopped (though not without grumping). If I did a £/time it probably would work out ok but still!!!

As for me I have never really got on with gaming on iPad/vita (TkX an exception!!) as prefer the big screen.
Played through Red Dead Redemption 2, Spider-Man and God of War though find I tend to game between 10pm and 1am in the main (I work from home most of the month so no commute in the mornings :) )

Love single player games so PS4 wins hands down. The only online games I’ve played have been ones where you can play as a single player (never winter, path of exile) without the need to play in groups (never saw the attraction of MP games)

PS5 - maybe but definitely not an early adopter as still too many games coming out for PS4

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I find the settings of current games cause me to suffer a lack of motivation to engage with them. They're all zombie apocalypse, or shooting people in Afghanistan with models of actual firearms, or racing a model of an expensive real-life car around a track.

The linearity of modern games puts me off, too, as illustrated by this (now quite old!) diagram:

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I suppose some of the games from back in the day were a bit linear, like Half Life, but even then you could walk away from the interesting conversation you just "happened" to overhear. And the Wing Commander games had the choose your own adventure thing going for them, where you could select different paths through the story.

Anyway, it has to be said that the games I find myself getting into the most are "new to me" PC or Playstation games from around the turn of the century, or even older stuff I can play on an emulator.
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Firefox wrote:I find the settings of current games cause me to suffer a lack of motivation to engage with them. They're all zombie apocalypse, or shooting people in Afghanistan with models of actual firearms, or racing a model of an expensive real-life car around a track.
To add open world games full of procedurally generated things. Fantastic from a technical point of view but leave me a bit cold. GTA 5, RDR2 and too an extent the new Zelda. Rather have a smaller world full of more detail and things to do with a decent story in there.
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MattyP wrote:
Firefox wrote:I find the settings of current games cause me to suffer a lack of motivation to engage with them. They're all zombie apocalypse, or shooting people in Afghanistan with models of actual firearms, or racing a model of an expensive real-life car around a track.
To add open world games full of procedurally generated things. Fantastic from a technical point of view but leave me a bit cold. GTA 5, RDR2 and too an extent the new Zelda. Rather have a smaller world full of more detail and things to do with a decent story in there.
I thought RDR2’s story was very engaging with better developed characters (though getting from place to place was a little tedious). Certainly one of the most enjoyable stories I’ve played through (though Witcher 3 is still my favourite)
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VNVObit wrote:I thought RDR2’s story was very engaging with better developed characters (though getting from place to place was a little tedious). Certainly one of the most enjoyable stories I’ve played through (though Witcher 3 is still my favourite)
I shouldn't really comment about games I haven't played TBH. Just going by GTA series and the original RDR. Think it was mainly the mission structure I found a bit tedious in R* games.
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MattyP wrote:
VNVObit wrote:I thought RDR2’s story was very engaging with better developed characters (though getting from place to place was a little tedious). Certainly one of the most enjoyable stories I’ve played through (though Witcher 3 is still my favourite)
I shouldn't really comment about games I haven't played TBH. Just going by GTA series and the original RDR. Think it was mainly the mission structure I found a bit tedious in R* games.
I agree with you on GTA , just not the same depth in the characters
RDR2 has a credible redemption western storyline (in some ways reminds me of the film Shane, albeit you don't have to play it that way), even the epilogue is enjoyable and story missions do give some deeper background to the main character
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I have pretty much lost interest in modern AAA gaming as well. I still enjoy looking in indie games, like my recent purchase of Battle Princess Madelyn or newer games made for older system like the recently produced Mappy for the Atari 2600 and Organism for the Commodore 64.

I bought Neir Automata recently and while the game itself is not that bad I got bored with it quickly and went back to my NG+9 run in Demons' Souls.
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Huh, topical.

I started getting old a decade ago - it's been something like 15 year since I last build a PC from scratch, and at least 12 years since I've last had a proper stationary PC at home. This change was driven by the offspring seizing control of my spare time in an iron grip, and having to actually work for a living, post-uni. For the longest time it felt unreasonable to invest in any sort of powerful hardware that I was just not going to have the time to use. AAA games either required a time investment I just couldn't bear, or decreased rapidly enough in price that waiting always felt prudent, since I was unlikely to see the cultural benefits that come from sharing a cultural phenomenon at a given point in time.

In the interim I've been gaming on the Wii, a DS (which has been handed down to my daughter - scary) and a variety of Mac laptops from work. This period coincided with new games journalism (especially RPS) and the indie boom influencing my tastes, as well as the PC power curve flatting, meaning that I always had something of fitting scope and complexity to play that didn't require a "gamer PC". And since the work laptop upgrades meant I could eventually play even Wolfenstein: New Order on my laptop, why bother investing in something more powerful? Like many others I have also accrued a games library (calling it a backlog suggests that I'm going to ever get through it, a complete fiction) of truly ridiculous size in the process, largely driven by Humble Bundle, at surprisingly low cost, over this period.

So, for more than the last decade or so, I've been behind the curve, both in terms of what I've played, and what I've been playing it on, all the while acquiring ever more interesting games, some of which may not have been playable at the time of purchase, but which inevitably became so over time. It's only in the last 2 years or so (not surprisingly coinciding with the younglings becoming more independent) that I've actually had to - very occasionally - give up on games because of underpowered hardware, in a way that actually left me frustrated. I've also slightly more often had to hold out on buying games I wanted, but knew were out of reach (nuDoom, Wolfenstein II, maybe Prey).

But again the flattening out of the hardware power curve has come to help me: I bought a decommissioned PC from work for a nominal amount a year ago - we always use SSDs and top CPUs, so it is quite snappy for a 7-year old piece of hardware - but haven't had strong enough of an incentive to set it up. However, a couple weeks ago I also got an old monitor for free (old enough that it's 1900x1200 rather than "1080p", and tops out at 60Hz). So I bought a graphics card for the rig, a low profile GTX 1050 Ti - literally the best current card that can fit into the thing, due to power and form factor constraints. Yes, that's scraping the bottom of the mid-tier, but given my monitor configuration it is still powerful enough that I can now comfortably play the most demanding games in my library at max resolution and, if not Ultra, then at least High, settings, and I've not yet played anything where I couldn't somehow get 60FPS without lowering the resolution. I'm also still GPU limited, so the rest of the system is holding its own. Even on Ultra, Shadow of the Tomb Raider get a very reasonable 45FPS. That seems... quite good? No, it's not 4K@144Hz, but the cost to get to there from 1080p@60Hz where I currently am, just seems extreme.

In other words, I've been that guy from xkcd for a long time, and a decade spent in that state of mind has seen the FOMO subside to a near whisper, even if it does stir at times. The evolution of my game tastes also mean that I'm much less interested in teh grafix heavy genres than I used to (VR is also out since I don't have stereoscopic vision), so the hardware is not likely to be a critical factor in what I actually want to play the most, anyway - and I'm actually quite content with that situation. Maybe I'll build a 4K-capable rig when the kids leave home, but there's no rush.

And of course, the console I most want is... the Switch. Maybe the kids will get one for Christmas.
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VR's not out just because you don't have stereoscopic vision. You would probably benefit from a proper 6 degrees of freedom setup even more than 2-eyed people do though.
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toxibunny wrote:VR's not out just because you don't have stereoscopic vision. You would probably benefit from a proper 6 degrees of freedom setup even more than 2-eyed people do though.
Sure, that was maybe a bit on the nose. I was mainly trying to say that it is not likely to be a significant driving factor for me wrt. hardware.

(I do have two eyes, they just don't play as nicely with each other as they should.)
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