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Rubisco wrote:
Little stoned kiwi wrote: Totally different can of worms to open here, but criticism involving the Israeli state is not anti-Semitic.
Yes but if there are several houses in your street that have untidy lawns, and you spend more time and energy criticising the untidy lawn that belongs to the Jewish family than you do criticising other lawns, some of which are less tidy, it's a fair question to ask why that is, even if the criticism itself is justified.
Because it's the richest house in the street?

There are states with shoddier human rights records than Israel, but they're often much poorer, and/or being attacked by Marxists (which gets them bonus get out of human rights gaol free cards with the CIA).
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zip accident wrote:
Rubisco wrote:
Little stoned kiwi wrote: Totally different can of worms to open here, but criticism involving the Israeli state is not anti-Semitic.
Yes but if there are several houses in your street that have untidy lawns, and you spend more time and energy criticising the untidy lawn that belongs to the Jewish family than you do criticising other lawns, some of which are less tidy, it's a fair question to ask why that is, even if the criticism itself is justified.
Because it's the richest house in the street?

There are states with shoddier human rights records than Israel, but they're often much poorer, and/or being attacked by Marxists (which gets them bonus get out of human rights gaol free cards with the CIA).
If all the extra criticism came in the form that their money could afford them the ability to pay to tidy their lawn, then that would be a satisfactory explanation.

Next-door-but-one to the east are far richer BTW.
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Get ready for another Twitter tantrum from the Toddler-in-Chief... He wanted the Federal Reserve to cut interest rates by 1%. They kept them on hold. Zing!
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Interesting. Traditionally the U.S. Presidents don't tell the Fed Reserve what to do. They have always had very independent powers that guarantee how the country is administered. He seems to think that the country is his company and that he has the right to decide on everything.
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What a dick.
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everklear wrote:What a dick.
Now that's an insult to Richard Nixon, Trump's clearly worse.
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Trump says "we are where we want to be" in trade talks with China.

The Idiot-in-Chief just more than doubled trade tariffs on hundreds of types of Chinese goods, including raw materials, despite being told by economists it would damage the US economy.

Heaven help us, he is still trying to run America the same way he ran his businesses, with bluffs and threats. Oh, and apparently he made all those losses in the 1980s to avoid paying tax.
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Well, genius-in chief, you'd best have a word with the Democrats since they're largely in favour.
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The popularity of a delusion is no measure of its accuracy.
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It's certainly a widespread delusion. The EU, Japan, Germany and Canada have all expressed concern over China’s I/P theft and forced technology transfers.
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The loss of IP is largely the fault of those companies what decided to outsource their manufacturing. They outsourced their manufacturing because the market demanded it. The market demanded it only because once one company outsourced, price competition drove the whole market down, and the others had to follow or fail. Such is the way of things when countries submit themselves to an economic system controlled only by it's own emergent behaviour; collective advantage is lost.

It's not surprising to find that a country outside of that system takes advantage.

It's not clear that putting up tariffs is going to help when the cause of the problem - that product price and share price are the only things that matter - remain unaddressed.

OTOH general tariffs are generally indistinguishable from environmental tariffs at the moment, so lets be thankful for the rose, even if it's called a turd.
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The worst part of the tariff nonsense is that Trump keeps talking about all the money they've raised, while being unaware that all the money is coming from American consumers, not China. And we've spent tens of billions bailing out the farmers that got fucked by this trade war. At least the wildly expensive social programs championed by the Dems might have some tangible benefit for citizens.
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It's a known fact Trump doesn't like cats (or dogs) but Larry does not seem to care about:
Images going viral show the 12-year-old feline, who lives at the PM’s official residence, sheltering from the rain and refusing to move from under Trump’s presidential limousine ― dubbed “The Beast.”


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I do like that Larry's Twitter account takes side swipes at Trump, under the pretence that it's the cat that's writing them.

An unofficial official way to signal that, yeah, we also think Trump's an arsehole too - but, hey, he's the American President, so we will roll out the red carpet for our cousins from over the Pond, of course.

America, the nation, will have our full pomp and circumstance and respect, naturally enough.


But this strange orange man you've sent over?

Yeah, as Larry the cat says, "I've made my choice":

https://twitter.com/Number10cat/status/ ... 7078364160

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48998696

Some Republicans are claiming that Trump meant "go back to the districts they represent" or similar. In the UK, "go back to where you came from" is definitely a racist phrase, and has been as long as I've been alive.
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