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Re: Press 'Start' to return to game???

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As I understand it Llamasoft can't release an official patch on Steam...

I have send an email to Atari customer support earlier this week. I'm not expecting anything from it but at least I tried.
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How about an unofficial fix then?
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Maybe Llamasoft don't want to face yet more legal action from a company that's already whacked them with the lawyer stick once?
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I'll never tell, Would you? lol :sheep:

I just can't get enough of Tempest 4000! I just want to be able to finish the game without having to kill myself to save my score...
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Tempest Nut wrote:I'll never tell, Would you? lol :sheep:

I just can't get enough of Tempest 4000! I just want to be able to finish the game without having to kill myself to save my score...
Two problems. Llamasoft, whilst their heart is in the right place and they do care, aren't the best with patches, this is magnified that patching of T4k is up to Atari, not Llamasoft and I don't think they will sanction further updates...
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Tempest Nut wrote: I just can't get enough of Tempest 4000! I just want to be able to finish the game without having to kill myself to save my score...
This.

If Llamasoft would ever get around to fixing this I don't see how Atari could object to releasing a tiny update to fix a gamebreaking bug. We'll even test it for free.
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Polybius has the same problem (PS4 and PC). It takes about 2 hours to get to level 50 in pure mode and then you have to suicide to get a highscore. The PS4 version also has this nasty unlimited highscore bug wich fucked up the highscore tables. It could be a bit of a problem to release a patch on PS4 but whats the problem on steam (yes of course there needs to be testing)?
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Without knowing any of the details, "the problem" is usually down to businesses having their own processes and standards that everyone needs to follow. They'll have their own QA teams, then there is probably official certification, paying the developer and whatever else.

All those things cost money. Quite simply, if a business doesn't think it's worth the money, they won't even start the process.
But it is far, far more involved than just "the dev fixes some bugs, a bunch of people said it works for them so Atari hit the publish_on_steam button"
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VanAlphen wrote:
Tempest Nut wrote: I just can't get enough of Tempest 4000! I just want to be able to finish the game without having to kill myself to save my score...
This.

If Llamasoft would ever get around to fixing this I don't see how Atari could object to releasing a tiny update to fix a gamebreaking bug. We'll even test it for free.
I fully agree it's a gamebreaking bug BUT on the other side I love the game so much it's not a deal breaker...
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rowan wrote:Without knowing any of the details, "the problem" is usually down to businesses having their own processes and standards that everyone needs to follow. They'll have their own QA teams, then there is probably official certification, paying the developer and whatever else.

All those things cost money. Quite simply, if a business doesn't think it's worth the money, they won't even start the process.
But it is far, far more involved than just "the dev fixes some bugs, a bunch of people said it works for them so Atari hit the publish_on_steam button"
So do you think the PC version will never be fixed to where you can finish the game without killing yourself?
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Tempest Nut wrote:So do you think the PC version will never be fixed to where you can finish the game without killing yourself?
My personal opinion is that it will never be fixed.

It was highlighted and acknowledged by giles whilst the first patch was being worked on.
Sadly when that patch was released it was still unfixed and I no longer hold any hope that another patch will come :(

I may be wrong - I hope I am - but I feel it's been silent for too long.
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rowan wrote: I may be wrong - I hope I am - but I feel it's been silent for too long.
You aren't wrong, just can't see Atari ever sanctioning it, especially as this will only ever a tiny fraction of the purchasers. There will be very few who will ever get to the end.

I wonder if there is any way there could be an unofficial fix, assuming it's a simple one, and we manually copy the fixed files onto the PC?
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Misfit wrote:
rowan wrote: I may be wrong - I hope I am - but I feel it's been silent for too long.


I wonder if there is any way there could be an unofficial fix, assuming it's a simple one, and we manually copy the fixed files onto the PC?
That was my hope...
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