Minotaur Arcade Vol 1 (Gridrunner/Goatup)

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Markie wrote:Any word on the Gridrunner PS4 release date?
NO because I just wrote another letter to Sony asking about "ok what's the best strategy next" which more or less goes "ok what's the way to pass this step then ?".

I think we could "label" Llamasoft games as "don't even bother testing this I KNOW already you are going to make me fail because .. " ..


"Description:
SUMMARY
Image quality issue in the form of brightly flashing lights covering the screen."


" .. because the game is too psychedelic .. "

Anyway it's just an extra step to ask for "ok can you pass this ?" .. probably we'll end up with another of those "unskippable warnings" and some shit like that but hey ..

More round of emails, more days, but it's all still going, don't worry about it, blame all those people that are ready to sue everyone for every little thing, it's all about them ...

[edit] - I mean customers that may find the game "too flashy".
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Just had a few runs of binding of isaac on my ps4 and the tear effects and Tammy's head bursts were mental. Maybe Sony need to tone that down too. Ffs.
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We live in hope then! Hope that it's sooon!

gilesgoat wrote:
Markie wrote:Any word on the Gridrunner PS4 release date?
NO because I just wrote another letter to Sony asking about "ok what's the best strategy next" which more or less goes "ok what's the way to pass this step then ?".

I think we could "label" Llamasoft games as "don't even bother testing this I KNOW already you are going to make me fail because .. " ..


"Description:
SUMMARY
Image quality issue in the form of brightly flashing lights covering the screen."


" .. because the game is too psychedelic .. "

Anyway it's just an extra step to ask for "ok can you pass this ?" .. probably we'll end up with another of those "unskippable warnings" and some shit like that but hey ..

More round of emails, more days, but it's all still going, don't worry about it, blame all those people that are ready to sue everyone for every little thing, it's all about them ...

[edit] - I mean customers that may find the game "too flashy".
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Markie wrote:Any word on the Gridrunner PS4 release date?
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I am a total nervous wreck.

So just to let you know "what's going on" .. fundamentally I am at the 4TH FQA submission, what can I say "stupid idiot bugs" I failed 3 times in my defense I can say "the bugs never been the same" I can't say really more as I don't want to incur in breaking of NDAs and such.

The problem is in all an all every time I re-submit to test there are various "technical times" let's say >1 week goes away plus this time took me - feeling a TREMENDOUS 'time pressure' - over a week to fix 2 bugs that turned out to be "hellish" to say the least.

Very long story made short "code done X ago, tested extensively X ago, still seems to work fine today, when I will have more time ( never ) I SHOULD re-verify/upgrarade that thing" that "seems" failed in an "unusual circumstance" .. which I almost forgot it existed .. but FQA found it. (**)

On the top of that something NEW that wasn't before now exists .. which caused another "small problem" ( many vaffanculo many ) with LBs the "oh ho yeah now I can change the online ID on the flip" .. via web browser .. funny thing I was convinced that the code was "ready for that because I already implemented ... " .. it wasn't ..

But the (**) made me go almost on a nerve wreckage, overall I had to say "OK fuck it, if it has to be done it has to be done" I basically had to re-do/re-check from 0 "all the PSVR code in an out" going line by line over MANY THOUSANDS of lines of code re-doing funny diagrams on papers of this calls that before this and that and such ..

In the end I was almost "just a couple of lines of code" that fucked me up SO BAD in that circumstance.

But on the passing by I think I also improved some things.

VR is complex issue to make it work correct.

I am well at the point that all this and all this re-testing many times and such causes me :

- a sort of "tremendous OCD" in testing and re-testing and testing more and NEVER been "convinced" that I did test enough

- "testing nausea"

- constant fear that "there could be something wrong I can't see"

- constant feeling of "impending doom" (i.e. gets rejected again)

Anyway I booked a slot, soon going into testing again, fingers crossed this time is really perfect.

Also must be said the guys of NMS found a way to do something about PSVR I have NOT A CLUE about how the heck they done it but it's smart :lol: :lol: :lol:

Meanwhile I'll continue working on other things, I can GUARANTEE you that in all this time EVERY SINGLE DAY been working on "something" no day been wasted.

In fact I started to even skip some pub time to try to work more on other things possibly to finish them sooner.
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It sounds like this will kill Giles off at this rate!
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Thanks for the update, Giles. Cheers for not giving up! I am so looking forward to playing this - particularly Gridrunner, as I've been revisiting the Android version recently, and can't wait to play it on my PSVR.
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r1ckyrock wrote:Thanks for the update, Giles. Cheers for not giving up! I am so looking forward to playing this - particularly Gridrunner, as I've been revisiting the Android version recently, and can't wait to play it on my PSVR.
I can tell you it's ABSOLUTELY LOVELY on the PSVR !!
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gilesgoat wrote:
r1ckyrock wrote:Thanks for the update, Giles. Cheers for not giving up! I am so looking forward to playing this - particularly Gridrunner, as I've been revisiting the Android version recently, and can't wait to play it on my PSVR.
I can tell you it's ABSOLUTELY LOVELY on the PSVR !!
Do you think there is a good chance of it being available before Christmas?
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Markie wrote:
gilesgoat wrote:
r1ckyrock wrote:Thanks for the update, Giles. Cheers for not giving up! I am so looking forward to playing this - particularly Gridrunner, as I've been revisiting the Android version recently, and can't wait to play it on my PSVR.
I can tell you it's ABSOLUTELY LOVELY on the PSVR !!
Do you think there is a good chance of it being available before Christmas?
I REALLY HOPE SO, they are pinching on "fucking trivial things" !!!
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gilesgoat wrote:In fact I started to even skip some pub time to try to work more on other things possibly to finish them sooner.
Don't kill yourself Giles.

Downtime is really important to your health, and will ultimately make the work time more productive.
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RiK wrote:
gilesgoat wrote:In fact I started to even skip some pub time to try to work more on other things possibly to finish them sooner.
Don't kill yourself Giles.

Downtime is really important to your health, and will ultimately make the work time more productive.
Indeed, missing the relaxing pub time is what the brain needs :-) or any activity that you love to do that is not work, good to have the balance.
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I just had "another final round of MEGATEST" trying "all the shit you can imagine" and more, yank cables, pauses, no pause, connect, disconnect, login, no auto login, break the network while this and that, enter rest mode in a way, modify shit while in rest, restore in another, crap here, crap there, do shit with menus, change shit on the fly, play in a mode, play another ...

"Fuck that" .., I am going to submit ( for testing ) .. if they find some other shit "I really don't know" at this point I could go totally bananas.
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BANANAS! You are a goat, not a monkey, sharpen those horns and GO BUTT THEM :-) CHARGE! :skip:
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Real stories happening during all this testing.

1. Testing in/out from VR, on off switch on/off etc. .. got to a point I wear the PSVR - ON - I see the "monitor" thought it I think "ah I am seeing the monitor" ( the REAL one, i.e. I don't realize I am actually seeing the PSVR ) I push to button to turn ON ( which is already ON so I turn it OFF ) the PSVR I got totally puzzled WHY ALL IS DARK NOW ??!!

2. Not to burn down the whole kitchen forgetting I am also warming up/cooking some food - while TESTING - I get with me a kitchen timer set to X minute, one of those with LCDs and some buttons ..

I am still testing and checking sources and testing I grab "the PS4 controller" I start pushing buttons looking at the screen/debug .. WTF ? WTF ?? NOTHING WORKS ! OMG ! WHAT NEW BUG !!?? .. then I realise I was trying to control the PS4 using the kitchen timer.

3. Preparing tea mugs ( while testing ) .. remember about them X hours later ..

And so on ..
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