The PS5 thread (Fast, solid, traces rays)

[Rhythm]

So, "Holiday 2020" we kind of knew about, but some actual details have started to drop. Wired posted this today:

Known so far:

- SSD confirmed (I think we knew this already)
- Hardware ray-tracing
- New controller with adjustable feedback/tension and "haptics, not rumble"
- New, snappy UI with interface to see what friends are doing without firing up games
- 4k Blu-ray player (assume 4k streaming is now in too?)

The controller sounds interesting - from the sounds of it the haptics can control things like variable pressure? I also like the element of trying to get away from game tropes that have been established to hide loading times

[RiK]

Also worth remembering they've stated it'll be backwards compatible with your PS4 games..

[Rhythm]

Also worth remembering they've stated it'll be backwards compatible with your PS4 games..

Good good good. Makes a day one purchase more palatable

[RiK]

Exactly. I've still got the original PS4, and must admit I was a bit irked when they released the Pro, but I'll be in on PS5 as soon as it's available.

[Misfit]

Well, I absolutely won't be buying it.

Nope, no way.

Not interested and barely play games outside of my phone, then maybe a little on the Switch and even less on the other consoles.

And I've never really liked my Playstations, at least the kids have some use of them.

Sigh, who am I kidding where do I sign?

(I guess we lose the PS4, move the Pro to where the 4 was and install the 5 to where the Pro was...)

[Rhythm]

I had a browse of PS Now the other day and if they can keep it up for PS5 I might be in. The idea of paying £10-15 per month to get me access to a varied and interesting library of games is something I could definitely see myself doing

[Misfit]

I had a browse of PS Now the other day and if they can keep it up for PS5 I might be in. The idea of paying £10-15 per month to get me access to a varied and interesting library of games is something I could definitely see myself doing

I've been a bit oblivious to it really. Does it match Xbox Gamepass?

[Rhythm]

I've been a bit oblivious to it really. Does it match Xbox Gamepass?

Not quite, but it's getting there. Had a look after they reduced the price to £9 per month (down from £18(!)). Subscription service for downloadable PS4 games, along with emulated games that run on Gaikai cloud tech. Been a bit busy to hit "go" on the trial but will be giving it a go soon

Game list - anything with a download size runs locally. 750 games and counting

[NorthWay]

So... it's a pc, upgraded from the last version and with locked down specs. Which was entirely predictable when they raided the pc store for parts.
I'm sorry, but it really doesn't do that much for me as techno porn. Which is of course perfectly fine as it is the software you should care about, but I like buying 'potential' ever since I saw the Amiga.
(Funny thing is that I have a soft spot for the ColecoVision, but that is all about the sw and not the hw!)

[Rhythm]

Tech porn for the console, absolutely agreed. Wondering what they can do with that controller, though...
Also intrigued what SSD-focused development would do. I know PCs have had SSDs for years and they rapidly reduce losing times, but most games are made with having to accommodate “the old way of doing things” in mind. If they really can use the tech to all but eliminate loads... I’m up for seeing that.

I’m at the point TBH I wouldn’t buy a console if it weren’t for the fact that my family won’t ever get PCs

[MattyP]

Keeping an eye on the NG consoles. At the moment not really interested in jumping in. Have a half decent PC at the moment and it gets used for other things.

Also still have a PS4 (pro) and I'm happy with that. Guess it depends what exclusives they bring to the PS5. This time I am happy to play the waiting game got a bit burnt with DriveClub last time and the whole "launch window" thing. Games are taking forever longer to develop these days and I expect it will take at least a year after release to get anything decent out on the new consoles. Besides they will feel a bit like PC upgrades this time... but it'll be interesting to see what Sony come up with. Also whether it will be fully backward compatible out of the box. Not that I don't trust Sony but it maybe a software solution that comes out way after release. Understandable I guess as they want people to buy shiny new PS5 software to go with the machine (why else would you buy a PS5 at launch otherwise?!).

Also still haven't bought or tried the Sony VR stuff yet so may pick up one of those next time I see one in a sale or something. Like the generational shift lots of stuff gets sold fairly cheaply as everyone bits and buys the shiny new thing...

The other thing I'm keeping an eye on is Stadia... because I like the idea of not having a box under the TV downstairs. Just a pad tucked away sounds great. I have no need for a big boxy thing that plays discs.... kind of why I love the Switch lovely and compact and I can tuck it away out of the way when its not been used.

[Deckard]

Surprised no posts in 9 months..... tempted by one now to play some Housemarque games but didnt realise the level of scalping

[Misfit]

Surprised no posts in 9 months..... tempted by one now to play some Housemarque games but didnt realise the level of scalping

Because I tried to keep it all together here:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=88628

And people have used this one too (last post having a vide0 of Returnal):

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=88225

[Deckard]

Surprised no posts in 9 months..... tempted by one now to play some Housemarque games but didnt realise the level of scalping

Because I tried to keep it all together here:

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=88628

And people have used this one too (last post having a vide0 of Returnal):

http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=88225

My bad Been a long day...

[gilesgoat]

So we finally put hands on a PS5 .. we got two games so far .. Jeff got GTA7, I got Ratchet and Clank rift apart.

OK FIRST of all "I wasn't expecting that much" .. like "Yeah ok it's a bit more than a PS4, sure a PS4 with some more graphics and so on .. " ..

Well "I was wrong" .. even if from "a certain point of view" you can say "yes it's a PS4+" .. it's really "+++" !

SECOND AT ALL, ok MAYBE if you DO NOT have a "big screen 4K OLED with HDR" .. maybe "what follows if not for you" .. but IN CASE YOU HAVE IT, as WE DO well MAN you are in for quite something

For all those who say "who cares about 4K gaming 1920x1080 it's all you need" .. I tell them "you miserable fools with SMALL LOW RES MONITORS and your FAKE RESOLUTION SHADERS !!" .. "come here and take a look at a REAL TV/monitor" ...

It's "bananez" .. the graphic is "so clean and so shiny it's beyond real" .. in fact despite still "being computer graphics" but I've seen stuff "so clean and high res" that looks like "perfectly natural artificial stuff" I mean stuff in Ratchet and Clank for example "looks like you are playing with realistic plastic toys in a fake-but-realistic world".

The amount of graphical details ( including illumination and materials ) those two games have we seen so far is "incredible" .. "there's more than what your eyes can process" .. it's just bananez ...

And then "the loading times" .. THERE ARE NO LOADING TIMES !

Playing Ratchet and Clank is where you see this feature "most", I am sure someway where needed they hid them but I am sure in any case you are maybe talking about "a 1 second time" or less .. the game .. "never stops never loads never interrupts the flow" .. it's like playing/watching a continuous N hours movie ..

You die, you restart a section is INSTANT .. no "reload" or "please wait" or "mega cutscene" .. no .. it just goes on and on and on and when you have the "dimensional jump/rift" it "instantly change level" going from one world to a completly different one in a blink of an eye.

GTA7 is so packed with stuff is unreal, but then again because it's still a "real life representation of things" you can still see in places that "it's still computer graphic" .. but there are moments where "if you look from a bit more distant" you could be fooled you are watching a race happening in real life.

Even that free platform game the give you is QUITE IMPRESSIVE .. and it's fun to play ( EXCEPT for me the sections with the monkey they are too hard / tiring on the hands ).

So overall I could say "yes there's quite a jump between PS4 and PS5 and 4K is the word" .. and not "a gimmick" .. 4K is 4K full stop !

And OLED is OLED ..

And "zero loading times" are "zero loading times" !!

So yeah quite impressed so far .. oh yes Ratchet and Clank is quite a bastard in some points ! Some boss battles are a pain in the arse !!