Star Wars

[Misfit]

No point me posting here, Misfit's opinion pretty much echoes mine!

You, sir, are a man of impeccable tastes!

Wanted to do midnight, but my son is already off school and now old enough to sit through without annoying* me with the need for a comfort break, so went with him first thing this morning. I'll go back when it calms down a bit in a few weeks.

*He now just annoys me wanting a large Tango Ice Blast at a mere £5.75! - It's worrying when the cheapest drink at the cinema is Costa Coffee!

Now listening to see what Kermode and Mayo think...

[Mayhem]

It's an enjoyable hot mess. Better than TLJ for sure. Some really nice bits, some ludicrously daft bits and yes, plot holes you can pilot a Super Star Destroyer through. Not enough Lando and definitely not enough Wedge. Chewie and C3PO probably their best in these three films to date. Nice touch if you can identify everyone doing voices in the montage speak near the end. Probably try to see it again at some point to formulate more opinion.

[RiK]

Went today, happy to say both Amy and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Loads of nods to the fans, loads of crazy OTT action. VFX were top notch. Loved it.

[MegaZoid.]

Thought it was the worst starwars movie, might have been better if I'd seen t it with the boy but went with one of my mates to an early morning screening at waterloo imax.
Just the same tired old plot, fx were good but i think these movies have to much cgi and just lacks personality, way prefer the minimal style of The Mandolrian.
Nobody really died, chewbacca shouldhave died would have made the movie better and what did he really contribute to the film after he was rescued.
Wasnt any real memorable set pieces other than that light saber fight on the water planet, i mean even phantom menace had the pod race.
I found myself looking at my watch half way through wondering how long it was till the end so i could have some lunch and a pint.
Best starwars for me was Rogue one and The Mandolrian.

[Daniel]

Best starwars for me was Rogue one and The Mandolrian.

Oooo... I like that you put those two together. Makes me more interested in The Mandalorian.

I think The Rise of Skywalker is ... ok. Better than The Last Jedi for sure, but less coherent than The Force Awakens.
Some good parts, but also bad parts. All in all, too many parts...

[gilesgoat]

Best starwars for me was Rogue one and The Mandolrian.

Oooo... I like that you put those two together. Makes me more interested in The Mandalorian.

I think The Rise of Skywalker is ... ok. Better than The Last Jedi for sure, but less coherent than The Force Awakens.
Some good parts, but also bad parts. All in all, too many parts...

Ok seen it today, I have to quote this because to me "Rogue One" is MAYBE ONE OF THE BEST movies I recently saw and call me MAD but even "Solo story" I think it's not too bad.

Now this latest Star Wars .. "NOT SO shit as I heard it should have been" it has a number of "disconnect the brain and don't think much" moments ( in the sense of "they can do all that kind of shit things and they can't do such a simple ? .. nevermind .. " ) overall it's true I think that "if you start thinking TOO MUCH about various details" too many things DO NOT fit so well at all and would have required more movies maybe to expand/explain/develop them better.

It's an enjoyable movie .. if you don't think too much .. I think it's true we could say "the more you start thinking, the more things you think could have been different" there are.

Nice to watch ? Yes .. "well done" ? .. highly debeteable ... "like the story as it is/ends" ? .. not so sure, again the more the think the more probably "more no than yes"

I really feel the lack of "really GOOD sci fi", if we exclude stuff like Blade Runner 2049 and stuff like Rogue One ( suprisingly very good ), I've been looking for good sci fi, I keep looking, I can't see that much at all

But yeah as a way to spend a few hours in the cinema being entertained it's ok ... as long as you don't think too much ...

Said that "overall" for me "cinema is really quite dead" ( and so TV, and so all the rest in general ) .. occasionaly there are some little gems but very occasionally there's too much stuff it's "someway enjoyable" ONLY if you throw away all the brain in a dustbin.

OR .. like quite a few movies I've seen recently fall in the category of "but this is exactly like that ( famous, less famous, infamous ) movie of X years ago" .. OR also "movies that you can guess the whole movie in the first 10 minutes" .. I've seen quite a few of both cases recently.

Anyway Star Wars .. "yeah hum but" .. not bad, but not too brilliant either.

[gribbles]

I know I'm sort of going against the grain a bit here - but it just got a big 'Meh' from me.

Still got the old familiar tingly buzz at the first musical stab with the SW logo appearing on the big screen, as I always have done each time at the cinema since I saw Star Wars aged 10 all those years ago - but I just didn't engage with this one. Couldn't move myself to care much at any point. And although I *know* a lot of folk say they thought it skipped along at a fair clip, it just felt a bit flat to me.

I think it's familiarity and the law of diminishing returns. but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I must admit there's a piece of me that is glad the saga arc is over. I'd love to see more spinoffs that are Good Films set in the SW universe. I think that has legs. But story & plot driven. Don't just rely on chucking up a SW trope or meme to carry you though.

Or perhaps I'm just getting (more) old and, jaded and cynical...

Romesh Ranganathan summed it up nicely I think : https://twitter.com/RomeshRanga/status/ ... 5684402181

Now, I realise that, being a geek - and to a certain extent a nerd - of a certain age, I must now go an don sackcloth and ashes and parade through the streets of my childhood town for holding such an opinion.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Spoiler: show

Ending up in a shithole like Tatooine though? What a bum note to go out on.

[Deckard]

Perhaps these films are children’s films ?

[gilesgoat]

Perhaps these films are children’s films ?

.. perhaps ...

[Deckard]

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me.

[MegaZoid.]

Might be a child's film but didn't stop it from being mediocre at best.
Kids like decent movies too.

[Little stoned kiwi]

I'm never going to grow up.

[Foozwah]

Saw it last night. Loved it, kids loved it, missus loved it.

Yeah there's some plot holes, but then there always are in every SW film since the beginning, so no change there. And yeah on the whole it's kind of predictable, whilst at the same time being sort of unbelievable, but then that also describes every other SW film, so the more things change...

At the end of the day it's yet more space opera with laser sword-wielding wizards and improbably WW2-style aerial dogfighting in a vacuum, and that's absolutely fine by me, as it was also exhilarating and a hell of a lot of fun.

The original trilogy will always be the best for me (but then like many of us here I'm of that age/era) but I'll definitely still take Eps 7, 8 and 9 over 1, 2 and 3 any day. Those prequels effectively killed SW for me for the longest time, so it feels kind of weird to be back in the fold, as it were.

Having said all that, I loved Rogue One, enjoyed Solo enough to see it twice and am currently enjoying The Mandalorian far more than expected too, so I'm also kind of glad the Skywalker saga, as it were, appears to be over. There's a big ol' SW 'verse out there, and no shortage of other stories to be told in it.

[snaff]

I didn't watch anything Disney since seeing The Force Awakens. The original trilogy works on a number of levels and it was obvious the new films weren't going to be able to accomplish any such depth. It's become clear Disney didn't even have an overall story for the sequel trilogy before making them - they simply have no story to tell us. The films are not Star Wars, they're just using the brand. Obviously they work for some people, if you are a fan of the action or whatever, but Disney didn't want to bring us all along.

The Mandalorian though is fantastic.