Coronavirus Pandemic

[PFVA]

I went to the supermarket today and according to the cashier a few people have gone in to stock up on stuff. A gentleman had been in and bought €200.00 of canned food.

I admit I generally buy Teifi's supplies every 8 weeks but i did it 10 days earlier just in case we have some probs in this area.

I don't know though if it gets to it that people staying indoors eating canned food is the best way to deal with this. I mean the body needs the strength of healthy food to fight this things and i don't think canned food is the best way to achieve it.

[snaff]

I went to the supermarket today and according to the cashier a few people have gone in to stock up on stuff. A gentleman had been in and bought €200.00 of canned food.

I admit I generally buy Teifi's supplies every 8 weeks but i did it 10 days earlier just in case we have some probs in this area.

I don't know though if it gets to it that people staying indoors eating canned food is the best way to deal with this. I mean the body needs the strength of healthy food to fight this things and i don't think canned food is the best way to achieve it.

Sprouts?

https://www.growveg.co.uk/guides/how-to ... er-salads/

[zip accident]

I went to the supermarket today and according to the cashier a few people have gone in to stock up on stuff. A gentleman had been in and bought €200.00 of canned food.

I admit I generally buy Teifi's supplies every 8 weeks but i did it 10 days earlier just in case we have some probs in this area.

I don't know though if it gets to it that people staying indoors eating canned food is the best way to deal with this. I mean the body needs the strength of healthy food to fight this things and i don't think canned food is the best way to achieve it.

If someone stays in and eats canned food, lack of excercise will do them a lot more harm than their food being canned. I don't think there's a problem with canned food, it's cooked so there's no vitamin c, but there's nothing else lacking that I know of.

[Deckard]

The average cornish man of my age would take months to die from lack of food to be honest....

[gilesgoat]

Continues 'paranoia' in Italy, they have confirmed 400 cases and now 12 deaths ( all people with other health problems as well ).

It would appear that in 95% of cases "it's like any other flu", in 5% cases it requires intensive hospitalization and 1% can lead to death.

Yet "compared to standard flu" seems the mortality rate is 10 times greater ( I suppose means 1% vs 0.1% ).

My bro tells me various hospitals have sent up tents to have extra bed spaces, they are doing tests all over the places when they have suspected cases, he tells me they done over 5000 tests in less than 1 week.

People started to be a bit in "panic buy mode", it appears it's not about "the lack of food" but "what if I have to stay home 30 days and I cannot go out to buy food ?" so some food/stuff began to disappear from super markets, even my bro "cause everyone else it's doing it and he can't risk to be without" done some "massive shopping" in case there's really nothing left.

It seems they found quite a number of people that actually were infected and were "not ill at all" and had not a clue at all they were infected.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Was talking to a manager in the factory I work, he can't get dust masks or sanitary wipes as suppliers have sold out.

[rowan]

We received an internal work briefing today, basically reminding people about performing good & consistent hygiene and considering skipping handshakes .

Which is actually all fair enough really, it wasn't sensational and there are a lot of people that do need to travel & meet up all over the world every week.

It would appear that in 95% of cases "it's like any other flu", in 5% cases it requires intensive hospitalization and 1% can lead to death.

Yet "compared to standard flu" seems the mortality rate is 10 times greater ( I suppose means 1% vs 0.1% ).

And yet still, "standard flu" kills on average 600 people in the UK per year. In bad years, it can be over 10000 globally.

Do the media go on and on and on about that?

[zip accident]

We received an internal work briefing today, basically reminding people about performing good & consistent hygiene and considering skipping handshakes .

Which is actually all fair enough really, it wasn't sensational and there are a lot of people that do need to travel & meet up all over the world every week.

It would appear that in 95% of cases "it's like any other flu", in 5% cases it requires intensive hospitalization and 1% can lead to death.

Yet "compared to standard flu" seems the mortality rate is 10 times greater ( I suppose means 1% vs 0.1% ).

And yet still, "standard flu" kills on average 600 people in the UK per year. In bad years, it can be over 10000 globally.

Do the media go on and on and on about that?

The reason they don't go on about flu is because it wouldn't sell news; it's not much worse from one year to the next.

[merman]

Was talking to a manager in the factory I work, he can't get dust masks or sanitary wipes as suppliers have sold out.

And yet I have just watched a leading expert on Twitter say that facemasks are not effective protection and may cause more problems than they prevent...

[PFVA]

Our government recommended among the other things that companies have less meetings. They may have a point, people in enclosed rooms, sitting around a table drinking coffee may be a good way to spread the virus, and all staff meeting too.

[koogy]

> And yet still, "standard flu" kills on average 600 people in the UK per year

usually between 15 and 20 thousand in England every year according to this

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... lu-reports

but it varies quite a lot, 26k in 2018-19, 3k in 2013/14...

(table 7 in the 2018-19 pdf, page 51)


went to phone shop in hammersmith yesterday and both the assistant and the customer being served were wearing masks. which was a bit o_O

[koogy]

that said:

https://www.bmj.com/content/361/bmj.k2795/rr-6

BMJ report from 2018 that's pretty damning about the above figures:
"Government exaggerates flu mortality again: why cannot the public be trusted with the truth?"

"On this basis, the number of deaths in England and Wales in an admittedly exceptionally bad year would have been only in the region of 335-340 deaths, and the ONS seem to have exaggerated the risk to the public by in the region of 150 times."

[Little stoned kiwi]

Was talking to a manager in the factory I work, he can't get dust masks or sanitary wipes as suppliers have sold out.

And yet I have just watched a leading expert on Twitter say that facemasks are not effective protection and may cause more problems than they prevent...

Masks are to stop you from spreading your germs rather than protecting you from others. We use dust masks when cleaning.

[merman]

Was talking to a manager in the factory I work, he can't get dust masks or sanitary wipes as suppliers have sold out.

And yet I have just watched a leading expert on Twitter say that facemasks are not effective protection and may cause more problems than they prevent...

Masks are to stop you from spreading your germs rather than protecting you from others. We use dust masks when cleaning.

But that's my point. People are panic-buying BECAUSE they think it PROTECTS them.

The fact the US has put anti-science guru Mike Pence in charge of the response, and flown infected people back without adequate protection for the medical staff, shows how good their control efforts are going to be

[tufty]

Yeah, but he'll pray for a cure.