Coronavirus Pandemic

[Rhythm]

Less than 2 weeks until I go to Rome. Whilst they're not on any kind of lockdown apparently tourism bookings are down 90%. If I get there and it's all still open that would be fantastic as fewer crowds is always good, but I'm doubting the trip will even happen at this point

[gilesgoat]

Less than 2 weeks until I go to Rome. Whilst they're not on any kind of lockdown apparently tourism bookings are down 90%. If I get there and it's all still open that would be fantastic as fewer crowds is always good, but I'm doubting the trip will even happen at this point

As far as I know Rome is NOT in one of the "critical zones" , if that would be Venice/Turin/Milan I'd say DO NOT GO there because you'd have a pretty high proabability to get contagion.

But Rome should be OK is pretty far away from all that, said that .. "it's a virus around like any other", not sure how much chances are you may get it or not but "it's around" so it's always a little bit of a bet.

Said that "even if all would be close" Rome has TONS to see just by its own, the monuments, the streets, the things around, it's history all over the places !

How are they dealing with the virus ? I am not sure, everyone is a bit in a paranoia mode.

I just have to add it's also pretty clear now that - in Italy at least - "China does not matter much any more", I mean the virus is somewhere around Italy going by its own now you could be in touch with people that never been any closer to China/Chinese people and still someway get it.

So yeah I mean "it's a flu, what can you do ?".

[Rhythm]

As far as I know Rome is NOT in one of the "critical zones" , if that would be Venice/Turin/Milan I'd say DO NOT GO there because you'd have a pretty high probability to get contagion.

Yeah, to be clear I'm not really bothered about getting COVID. I work from home and can "self isolate" pretty damn easily if needed, but I'd be somewhat frustrated if I got to Rome and all the museums and stuff are shut. As you say, though, there's tons to see just out in the open, so I'm sure all will be good :-)

If the flights are still going by then, of course :-)

[gilesgoat]

As far as I know Rome is NOT in one of the "critical zones" , if that would be Venice/Turin/Milan I'd say DO NOT GO there because you'd have a pretty high probability to get contagion.

Yeah, to be clear I'm not really bothered about getting COVID. I work from home and can "self isolate" pretty damn easily if needed, but I'd be somewhat frustrated if I got to Rome and all the museums and stuff are shut. As you say, though, there's tons to see just out in the open, so I'm sure all will be good :-)

If the flights are still going by then, of course :-)

I'd dare to say "get informed someway" because "as precautional measures" musem closed and such COULD be a possibility !

I don't think they'd stop flights, and I am not sure if I'd be more worried about what happens in Italy, because you are coming from a country "that has very little virus" but I'd be more worried about what happens when you'll come back to UK, if they decide "no you came from Italy now stay in this room/hospital 30 days" or shit like that.

[Rhythm]

Flights are already being stopped but the word is currently that it's due to (lack of) demand rather than official cancellations.

Crossing my fingers it all goes ahead. TBH still mildly excited about going to somewhere like Rome when there's few other tourists around

[(o)(o)]

So the quarantined guy and family are back in town.

Just returned from my GP surgery.. people openly coughing in the waiting room FFS

Open another waiting room for people with flu like symptoms dickheads!!

[Dio]

Nobody who suspects coronavirus should be in _any_ waiting room. The procedure if you suspect is to ring 111, and they will advise you to attend a testing station, where they will take a swab and in 2 minutes you can leave.

[Rhythm]

My doc's have put out a notice saying "if you think you have even just a cold, do not attend the surgery"

Should be pretty standard advice TBH

[(o)(o)]

All patients at my surgery got a text saying the same.. and I can't have a go at the guy because I know he's had a heart attack (previously, not right there) and was in massive pain looked like he was dying tbh should have been in A&E but FFS... the staff knew... *cough cough cough cough* reception can hear it, see him on CCTV...

And get rid of the motherfucking touchscreen you utter fucking dickheads... REMOVE IT.. TODAY!!! People have always been able to sign in at the desk at this surgery, it's like their brains have been removed...??

Far too much complacency, especially for a town where it's "front page local news" this guy and his Chinese wife just came from Wuhan via 14 day quarantine, and we know it can be aymptomatic, and we know the tests are not infallible.. and unlike Swine Flu, which I didn't find too bad tbh, this hits the elderly hardest.. just subjectively, the elders seem to be slowest catch on, START NOW with the hygiene adjustments ..

I wouldn't surprised if we see a Pan-fucking-tastic spike ..

[snaff]

UK population 70 million * 4/5 people getting it * 3.4% death rate = 1.9 million UK people dead.

190 million globally.

[Barney]

Well, at least if it thins out the older generations a bit then there's a chance the tories might not get in again next time.

[PFVA]

Speaking of flights here they just started as of yesterday to check the people coming in from Milano. Up to then they weren't. We had to have the first cases to start looking into that.

In the meantime the stocks of those alcohol based things to wipe one's hands are totally sold out everywhere.

[gilesgoat]

Seems it's getting even more shit in Italy, use Google Translate and read this :

https://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/ ... 250157672/

In short :

no more kisses, no more hugs, no more hands shaking, people should stay 2 metres from each other, every person over 65 should be better not go outside home, as soon as you have fever of any kind stay home, no more manifestations/public things for 1 month, etc. etc. etc.

[PFVA]

We went fm 2 to 4 cases today officially.

Now there is something different here. We don't know from what town or city people are. We just know in which city they are hospitalized. So far 4 cities in countries have hospitals to take people, Lisbon, Porto, Coimbra, and Faro (Algarve). Unless the people or their family, or friends choose to make the info public the privacy laws the only info passed is age, sex, so far the 4 are male and the hospitals where they are, 3 in Porto, and 1 in Lisbon.

Some of the news media is going nuts trying to figure out the towns. Spain is releasing the name of the places and one with 7 cases is Badajoz right on the boarder, and next to the town of Elvas. The media was trying to figure out if there was any cases in Elvas taking from the fact people cross back and forth all the time.

I don't know if this will change if the numberof cases increase, which is what will happen most likely, and if they will go into trying to quarenteen towns and regions.

Something tells me things here are going to go in the same way as Italy in regards to the number of cases.

[Little stoned kiwi]

Someone returned from Italy with it, and then took two domestic flights.
From here I don't think they are going to do anything to contain it. There's probably nothing they can do.