Endurance leaderboard

[VanAlphen]

It appears the Steam top 3 in GR: Endurance have really high scores that are in size similar to their Casual scores. Something must have went wrong in a previous build with Casual scores getting posted on the Endurance leaderboard.

Endurance


For reference I reached level 19 for my score.

Casual

[gilesgoat]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !

/me has a PROFUND HATE for that "leaderboard code" .. next time I have to put a MEGA STOP on Jeff doing anything on that thing before I haven't finished ..

.. if it's again another story of another index that went "banana" I'll go super banana ...

[VanAlphen]

Sorry

I do hope the top 3 scores eventually get removed or replaced with their previous scores so we can have a proper battle for the top position. In Pure I did manage to get first. I've bought the game 2 weeks ago and I can't put it down, it's just so good!

[d0kk]

VanAlphen asked me to chip in on this conversation. I can't speak for anyone else, but my MAV1:GR Endurance score, which is apparently #2 now on Steam (eesh) is the result of a bug. One weekend way back in the spring of 2019 I'd been playing MAV1:GR in Casual for a while, and after a long night of getting nowhere I switched to Endurance for a change. I suck at Endurance, I had no expectations. But the game started me with something like a dozen lives instead of the expected 3. If I'd been a bit more with it I'd have quit right there, but I was a few beers into the evening and this felt like a win, so I ran with it. Never expected the score to be that high, in all honesty.

So there you go. That score isn't legit. I'd be happy for it to be struck from the Scoreboard. If there's a process in place for that then let me know, I'll set it in motion.

[gilesgoat]

VanAlphen asked me to chip in on this conversation. I can't speak for anyone else, but my MAV1:GR Endurance score, which is apparently #2 now on Steam (eesh) is the result of a bug. One weekend way back in the spring of 2019 I'd been playing MAV1:GR in Casual for a while, and after a long night of getting nowhere I switched to Endurance for a change. I suck at Endurance, I had no expectations. But the game started me with something like a dozen lives instead of the expected 3. If I'd been a bit more with it I'd have quit right there, but I was a few beers into the evening and this felt like a win, so I ran with it. Never expected the score to be that high, in all honesty.

So there you go. That score isn't legit. I'd be happy for it to be struck from the Scoreboard. If there's a process in place for that then let me know, I'll set it in motion.

Just help me to understand, I hadn't time to put hooves on that code yet, but it's "a glitch that happened in some weird way" OR "systematically is going on the wrong LB ?".

Is it a way to replicate all you saw ?

[d0kk]

hi Giles, fair question.

I personally don't think this has anything t do with leaderboards. It's a glitch in the allocation of lives at the start of a new game mode that affects the final score. In my case, that's definitely what's happened. Can't speak for Gansteeth's humungous Endurance score in MA:GR. Maybe he's just a god.

I've only noticed it happening to me once. I haven't played the Steam version in a very long time so I haven't had much opportunity to see it happen again.

CORRECTION: Actually no I've seen it on the PS4 version too, a couple of weeks ago, going into Pure mode after playing in Casual for a couple of hours. Started me with a dozen lives. That's the first and only time I've seen it on the PS4, though, and I've been playing that version regularly since it came out on the PS4.


Hope this is in some way helpful. I'll fiddle around with it tomorrow (Tuesday), see if I can get it to happen again while I'm recording the game.

[d0kk]

An unsatisfying bug hunt today. MAV1 had been running when the PS4 went into sleep mode, so it was still active from the previous time I played it when I launched today. Pure mode started with 21 lives on level 1. I quit out of that game and restarted. Pure mode level one started with 3 lives as intended. After that I couldn't get the lives at start of any game mode to be other than what was expected. So, nothing particularly conclusive, but it does appear to be a recurring glitch.

[VanAlphen]

Well I was thinking about posting how in 70 hours of playing MA (Steam beta) or having the game on I didn't encounter any such bugs but now I have.

I was playing Casual lvl51, I can start that level with 44 lives. I did put my pc to sleep for testing during a paused game but not sure if that was cause. Played some more lvl51 and then started Pure with 45 lives.



I didn't continue the game of course, that would have been a bit silly. Something is amiss. The leaderboards may need to be cleared once the bug has been fixed.

[VanAlphen]

The bug is repeatable. I launch MA, choose GR, start lvl51, pause->quit, start Pure and voila 45 lives. Seems to work with other levels as well, not just lvl51.

This might also mean I could get a ton of lives to start Casual mode with.

[VanAlphen]

The same bug is in the non-beta version of MAGR, I can start Pure with the amount of lives I had in the previous Casual game. The "0635" in my score in the screenshot is leftover from the previous Casual game. No matter what I try I always start Endurance with 3 lives. So either before with a previous build you could start Endurance with a lot of lives as well or Casual scores were written to the Endurance leaderboard.

[VanAlphen]

Unfortunately the GR Casual leaderboard at Steam has been affected too. I spoke with someone who started casual mode in level 2 with 9 lives being unaware it should be 4

[VanAlphen]

I clipped a part of yesterday's HeartOfNeon's Twitch stream which shows the lives bug on the PS4 version (I think).

https://clips.twitch.tv/AgilePreciousDill4Head

A simple fix could be to have a future update check the savefile and when lives for a level are more than level + 2 they're reduced to level + 2 lives.

[gribbles]

Yeah - there is a lives bug on the PS4 version.

I can't give you exact rep steps (which as a s/w product manager irks me!), but I was moving between modes, and suddenly I had 21 lives on Lvl 1 in Casual.

Linkto big screenshot here --> http://gribbles.co.uk/images/grlives.jpeg